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Captain Tony 10-12-2013 07:10 AM

Compass. XJT is swirling the toilet bowl due to mismanagement and extremely high costs relative to the other regionals. 50 seaters (CRJ and ERJ) are going away over the next few years with no replacements slated. Displacements, downgrades and even furloughs loom on the horizon within a year or two. You will not hold ATL. ATL will most certainly continue to shrink and become more senior. It's already the most senior base on the CRJ side. Junior bases are DTW, IAD, MCI.

Compass will have a fast upgrade because the Delta flow throughs are about to leave. Despite being owned by Trans States, they haven't been bent over yet.

SiShane 11-13-2013 05:04 AM

Like others have stated...Compass would be wise because alot of movement is about to happen but no one has a crystal ball...do yr own research and go with what's best for you...

Squawk87 11-13-2013 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by Captain Tony (Post 1500573)
Despite being owned by Trans States, they haven't been bent overyet.

It's the same management that created G7.

Famos_Amos 11-13-2013 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by New Guy 007 (Post 1500392)
From what I have been through since I was hired just over a year ago, let me be the first to say, stay far far away from ExpressJet, This place hands down has got to the worst run airline or business I have been associated with, and I am not the only one that feels this way! Hope this helps.

I'm sure your opinion stems from years of experience at other regionals, no?

Yazzoo 11-14-2013 12:04 AM

I'm currently one year in on the L-ASA side of things at Xjt and have an interview at CPZ in one week. Seriously considering leaving, but my conditions are:

1) Shorter upgrade time (3 years ideal)
2) Better management (can't stand how XJT runs things)
3) Hot flight attendants

Okay, I'll take 2 of those 3 if push comes to shove!

JungleBus 11-14-2013 02:27 AM


Originally Posted by Yazzoo (Post 1519675)
I'm currently one year in on the L-ASA side of things at Xjt and have an interview at CPZ in one week. Seriously considering leaving, but my conditions are:

1) Shorter upgrade time (3 years ideal)
2) Better management (can't stand how XJT runs things)
3) Hot flight attendants

Okay, I'll take 2 of those 3 if push comes to shove!

1) IF Delta continues to hire for the next 3 years and IF they continue to honor flow commitments, upgrade at CPZ should run less than 3 years, more like 2. But of course history would suggest one not take those IFs for granted.
2) Trans States Holdings is freaking amateur hour, but they've mostly left us alone other than foisting our idiot DO on us. He's the former Trans States chief pilot, the one who tried to take off on one engine and then lied about it and got his license suspended for a month. He was also known for displaying all the IDs of the pilots he had fired in his office. A real gem, that one. Other than him, Compass management is reasonably competent for the regionals, and our chief pilots are actually fantastic. The system chief is the best I've ever worked under, and both assistant chiefs are good guys.
3) Sorry, you're gonna be disappointed. We have some fun crews, though, I've had some great overnights here.

RgrMurdock 11-14-2013 07:58 AM

MW was actually the DO of TSA. How's he doing over at compass? You guys can definitely keep him.


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