saturn, at skywest dose the employee pay for the long and short term disability? what is the retirement at skywest? we wont touch on those maybe 250 aircraft.

Employee contribution through the Hartford. Retirement is 100% match, 2%-6% based on longevity. Nothing to get excited about.

As for the aircraft who knows, maybe non show up. A lot can happen when billions of dollars hang in the balance though, we are pawns in these chess games.

This is the best post I've read on APC in quite sometime, and maybe even ever. I wish everyone would drop these petty arguments for a moment and realize what is being said here. It's important to keep the big picture in mind, because at the end of the day nobody is going to give a rats ass who won the special olympics.

If you refuse to look at the big picture here, then you are a HUGE part of the problem.

Sounds like the 'ol Mesa argument.

Says the guy working for the bottom feeder of all the bottom feeders.

Compass is 100% company paid from our contract. Funny thing is a lot of our pilots don't even know it exists.

With the $20K increase in all payrates at Endeavor, I would probably put them above all the rest of the regionals with 50-seat aircraft that will be parked. In all honesty, they won't have issues attracting new hires any more. Skywest will have to follow suit otherwise their hiring will hit the wall. The question is, where will the money come from?

The thing is, those "bottom feeder" pilots will most likely be moving on to the majors while you are still logging onto APC to express your odd infatuation with their former employer. I say go for it if that is how you desire to spend your free time.

Blah, blah, blah. Better brush up on community service with a record like yours sonnnnnnnnn.

This. Spot on.

The irony though, the very same companies all of us want to one day be working for are the ones that are causing the inferno that seems to be "life at a regional" because they're greedy and do it because they can.

The yes and no votes that come up once in a while are simple formalities -- at the end of the day nobody really gets a vote and there is no win win, only what the majors want.

There's a game being played on you all. Play it right and get out. So much whining and finger pointing against fellow pilots who were put against the wall on a vote - so sad to see people gang up against eachother.

Things are changing for the better, every month it seems as if regionals keep upping the benefits to join them...just watch and see - things will finally get to where they should have been since day 1. They have no other choice, and that is new territory for once.

ELOHEL. More flying is getting placed with bottom feeder scumbag outfits. People who have no business flying 121 jets are sitting in the right seat and thousands of people with 1,000's of hours of PIC are traveling across the country to stand in line for hours to spend 30 seconds with a recruiter. Meanwhile the niece of the secratary of the people in charge of hiring with a wet CRJ type is already sitting in class at a major.

Things are great.

How about I worry about me and you worry about you, capiche?

Well, if you were me then I'd be you and i'd use your body to get to the top. You can stop me no matter who you are!

What's in the past (65 ret. rule combined with recession) is in the past. Things are diff now.

And sorry, but who are you to judge who is qualified to fly 121 and who is not? Last time I checked, the mins were 1500 hours - and not 500 like some regionals would hire at 5-10 years ago.

Sorry bro. Truth hurts. Just keep on keeping it on in your DA40

Hahaha! Ok dude. You're rocking this thread, up and down and sideways too.

Good thing there's people like you who spend hours on the Internet fixing this dangerous dilemma.

That's how I roll dawg.

*brofist*

Seriously, huh? I'm a saint.

Which would provide better QOL
 

I live in San Francisco which airline would provide better QOL. Sfo skywest in would be on reserve forever and heard that compass all the new guys get a line very soon and The commute to sfo lax is cake.

Any inputs would appreciate it


QUOTE=saturn;1847171]Skywest has short and long term disibility. They do have better retirement and medical. They have a ton of 50 seaters which will fade out sometime, perhaps offset if they can find homes for the 250ish firm aircraft they have on order. Compass has explosive movement until the end of the year and few lifers. Lets pat all ourselves on the back and finish the cup of Koolaid. Both are subcontractors for major airlines whose very existence is based on being under compensated.
Pick whichever gives a good QOL, be smart with the little money you earn, have fun on the overnights, be cool to your coworkers, travel a bit, and pursue the next great opportunity when it comes.[/QUOTE]

The aren't able to fill classes. Latest class had 4 new hires.

I'm currently finishing up training here at CPZ and I think the reason why there were only 4 is due to lack of instructors. CPZ is very short on instructors. So I believe shortening the class so the backlog doesn't get worse is my guess. Just my opinion

Is this actually true? Serious question....

idk what everyone is so shocked about, this seems to be the typical route for compass, they hire like mad in the spring and summer, and then up their mins for fall and winter , last year around this time they interviewd people with less than 500 hours and then raised it to part 121 time required after XJT was on the fritz with people jumping ship, wouldnt be surprised to see it happen again especially with AE in limbo

You didnt know that being in the airline industry is like being in Apartheid South Africa? The minority will always have it better.

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I have a friend at skywest with about a year seniority and a line in SFO. On the ERJ. SFO is probably possible for a new hire within a few months of hire. Things are moving here. Commuting sucks, loads can change last minure without warning, and it's half the stress of the job. My advice would be to avoid commuting if at all possible.

Wow you really can't remove the unit out of your posterior that 9E left in you. Clearly you are a transplant from 9E. You bash them all the time. Would you like 9E to book you a hypnotherapist to help you forget the emotional abuse bestowed upon you there?

Anyone have any advice on how to get a call back from compass. Besides keeping AirlineApps updated. Been trying for some time now, I meet the mins for an R-atp, have about 65 multi. Would love to be Seattle or LA based. Any tips would be great!

Hmm, that's really odd. I am at 1375, 25 multi, I sent my app in on Friday, had an interview offer this morning and my travel details a few hours later. Is your driving record/checkride failures minimal?

Driving record is clean, and failed my commercial checkride. I've been going over and over the app trying to find things wrong with it, found a few minor errors. Hoping to get that call soon!

Thanks captain obvious.
I wouldn't want my worst enemy to get a job there. What's new. I Have never been hypnotized. It might be fun. See what you can line up. Til then, I won't pretend 9E is a good place to work. There are better airlines out there and I'm just making sure the new guys out there know to find employment elsewhere like I wish someone had told me to at the begining of the Pinnocolaba disaster.

Cool, good luck! I also know they put a lot of weight into how much flying the applicant has done in the past 6-12 months.

It's simple: You lower your minimums to increase the pool of applicants that meet them.

For a while, Compass had the luxury of being very selective with their hiring. Obviously that pool is drying up, hence the new minimums. Don't overthink it, guys.

Anyone on here who recently went through training I could PM with questions about the company? Thank you

Go ahead


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Winner winner chicken dinner.

So that's how I got hired! I'll take luck every time.