Thread bump. Seems like things have calmed in regard to movement from solid corporate jobs to legacy carriers. Have we found the salary/quality of life balance, or am I just viewing it from a unique happy bubble? Thanks!

I think your in a bubble. I just talked to a couple more business jet guys that switched to 121. They told me many more had their apps in. Until corporate departments offer a solid schedule and pay mucho deniro like the airlines many will leave.

I asked them what made them leave? They said it was simple. In a year they will be making more money and working way less.

I can't blame them.

If the big companies get their act together they can keep their flight department together. Once they let it fall apart it will be very hard to rebuild.

I’d agree, only the large-cabin guys in big cities are knocking down the 250k to prevent 121 moves. Even the most committed can do the math.

GF

Yup and even the guys I talked to were on large cabin stuff before they left. The money was going to be slightly more but it was the schedule that seemed to be what moved them. According to them they were both on call a lot and that gets tiring.

So I suppose paying 250k won't do much to stop people unless they are on a schedule like Netjets where they work 7 on 7 off or something along those lines.

You just gotta ask yourself do you wanna make 250k working 3 days on and 4 days off or the same money but 5 days on 3 days on call 5 days on again. That was what did it for them.

Corporate flight departments are in for a real reality check over the next few years.

The smart ones will move quickly to compete. The slow ones are going to find it very very hard to rebuild once their people leave and realize there are no experienced guys left. They will literally be throwing money at guys in a year or two. I'm not talking about 2,000 hour FO's. But if they require 4,000 + hour captains good luck they will be gone and the ones left are going to get pricey.

There’s always some hard cases like me who couldn’t stand the boredom of airlines. Five years of EAL 121 flying killed it for me. Never even applied after that, as have the half dozen ex-airline guys I worked with who never returned from furlough. But, one has to a hard case tediophobe who loves it.

GF

I suspect this may actually cause an elimination or outsourcing for many companies as it may become cost prohibitive if pilots are too expensive.

Outsourcing isn't any cheaper, often times it is between a little and LOT more expensive depending on ops tempo.

Schedule predictability, understood. Salary—everyone lives in a different situation, but easy to compare that. Have you guys seen or had success in creating a comparable loss of medical insurance plan within your corporate departments to what the legacies offer?

Hiring over age 55
 

Anyone know if airlines would hire corp pilot over age 55? Currently making 150K year with great QOL, just wanting to fulfill lifelong goal and not always worrying about job being there.

Call Harvey Watt Insurance.They can handle it. It's not that expensive. No more than health insurance.