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Old 05-28-2018, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Vital Signs View Post
Off The Street.

Corporate.

Not military or airline.


OTS would be corporate, mil or non-flow 121. Someone hired from Skywest is OTS civilian while a mil guy is OTS mil.
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Old 05-28-2018, 06:11 AM
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OTS includes other airlines.

The other options are ‘flows’ or military.
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:30 AM
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Thanks. It's a good point; certainly no guarantee I would even be looked at if I did apply. I was a military pilot, but that was 10 years ago, and I am not sure how that is viewed in light of my current status as a corporate pilot.
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Old 05-28-2018, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by mainlineAF View Post
OTS would be corporate, mil or non-flow 121. Someone hired from Skywest is OTS civilian while a mil guy is OTS mil.

Either way I am offended by the hooker reference of being on the street.
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Originally Posted by Feet Wet View Post
Thanks. It's a good point; certainly no guarantee I would even be looked at if I did apply. I was a military pilot, but that was 10 years ago, and I am not sure how that is viewed in light of my current status as a corporate pilot.
Military? What aircraft? What’s your military flying resume?

Being able to check the military box can put you in the 35% of new hire applicant pool vs the 9% pure civilian OTS new hires.
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Old 05-28-2018, 10:08 AM
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Fixed wing military + civilian jet experience is usually a pretty good combo to get an invite. Any safety or leadership roles? If so, get your apps in - yesterday.

Early 40's? You'll have a great 2nd career*



*usual disclaimers about a 9/11-ish event, HR whims, age 75++ mando retirement, locusts, etc.
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Old 05-28-2018, 11:45 AM
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The best combo is military FW + 121 experience.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:15 PM
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Thank you - I'd prefer not to post too many specifics as the Corp world is pretty small, but I do have military fixed wing experience and some 121 time.

I am somewhat familiar with the 121 life given previous experience. And as others have suggested there are goods and others to both. My current concerns are really around longevity in the corporate world and not wanting to move if I found it necessary to find another job. I was a commuter when I flew 121, and I don't necessarily want to go back to that, but it sure is nice to have the flexibility to do it if necessary/desired, and probably gets better with seniority (though I can't speak to that).

I enjoyed 121 flying, but the commuting and lack of seniority movement was what led me to look elsewhere; thus, if I tried to make a move back into 121 flying, I think my primary focus would be on going somewhere (major carrier) where i could get seniority quickest. Pay is also a driver, but it seems like most of the majors + FedEx/UPS are all paying top dollar. From retirement numbers, it seems AA and UPS would be the quickest route to seniority through retirements.

Please let me know if I should be thinking about this differently. Thanks.
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Old 05-29-2018, 12:23 PM
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It's fair to say that first year pay is also a concern at this point in my life, so I wouldn't want to endure that without a well thought out game-plan that had some payoff later on.
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Old 06-24-2018, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LibertyPilot View Post
You sure about that? I’m just over 2 years at a legacy and I’m on track to be fairly close 220k the previous poster stated. I exceeded my corporate salary year 2, and I was NBAA top 25% flying a G450 as a captain when I left in 2015.

To those wondering about making the switch, it was a great decision for me. My family and I are much happier with the QOL change. I am not a commuter.
LibertyPilot—-anything you miss about the corporate job? Weekends/holidays/flexibility/planning your own flights—or a seamless transition to 121? Thanks!
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