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Old 05-01-2018, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan View Post
Ok. United furloughed twice since 9/11. American only recently recouped all of its furloughed pilots post 9/11...

I’m just saying that the gods of aviation misfortune tend to punish the overconfident.


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and 5 years of that furlough was the direct result of very little retirements, as the age changed from 60 to 65. That was huge. I don't think that will happen again but anything is possible.
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Old 05-01-2018, 06:46 PM
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It seems in the last several years, I haven't met, or even heard of, a single corporate pilot who went to a major airline and said they made a mistake.

Anybody on here go to an airline and come back to corporate? Or go to an airline and now have apps back out at corporate jobs? It seems one sided right now. Corporate pilots who haven't made the switch, or pilots who never flew corporate, have lots of opinions. However, former corporate pilots who are now actually at a major airline seem to universally think they made a good move and have no plans to go back.

It is definately making it harder and harder for those of us who think we are at good corporate job to not look and jump over the fence.
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Old 05-01-2018, 07:59 PM
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Doesnt commuting weigh into the discussion? Live in bfe and fly for acme corp out of bfe vs sweating the commute to work in new york.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:01 AM
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There have been at least three bizav pilots hired at UPS since 2015 who quit prior to completion of IOE to return to their former job or another corporate operator in their hometown.

All were commuters.
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Doesnt commuting weigh into the discussion? Live in bfe and fly for acme corp out of bfe vs sweating the commute to work in new york.
Absolutely. But LBB(KBFE) to DFW/DAL would be a different story. Or maybe LBB(KBFE) to IAH. Three of the major airlines offer one stop commuting vs commuting to NYC for a career.

A guy had a great corporate gig for 20 yrs. And then the boss died. Netjets was the new plan. Early to mid 50’s with kids approaching the $$$ years. No viable corporate alternatives near where he lived. He jumped to the majors and is commuting.

It’s a tough choice for some. For some it’s easier.
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Old 05-02-2018, 05:40 AM
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I meant bfe as in butt f egypt not kbfe
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And that would Lubbock, KBFE.

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Old 05-02-2018, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
There have been at least three bizav pilots hired at UPS since 2015 who quit prior to completion of IOE to return to their former job or another corporate operator in their hometown.

All were commuters.
Commuting, on top of everything else, could a bitter pill for someone new to 121, especially if they're older with family and accustomed to living in base.

I commuted when I was younger, but the long game was always to eventually drive to work (mission accomplished). A short commute on a high-density pair wouldn't be a big deal but it's nice not to have to.
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Old 05-02-2018, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback View Post
Run the same furlough percentages that occurred with 9/11, and lack of growth and the airline staying at the same size, and the new hire hired last month, who’d be the last guy recalled, would be recalled in under 5 yrs and upgrade about three years later.

Is any of this guaranteed? No, but any furlough of today would probably be vastly different than it was 15-17 yrs due to the different retirement numbers.

That’s the assessment guys need to figure out for themselves.

220K at what appears to be a solid corporate job or 15 years at a legacy, which also appear to be solid. Both could change, but if both stay in the game, which one wins?
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Old 05-02-2018, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
There have been at least three bizav pilots hired at UPS since 2015 who quit prior to completion of IOE to return to their former job or another corporate operator in their hometown.

All were commuters.
And screwed the rest of us! Lol.
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