Executive Fliteways looking for Pilots!
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12 to 15 days really isn't that bad if your getting paid industry standards. My company only has 2 pilots per plane, so you know what that means, yes we fly every trip.... 3 pilots per plane is the perfect mix, sounds like a good stable place to work. If you guys ever come to the midwest I please make a post because I would love to check it out!
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So you guys have a min. of 8 days off a month. Are these days Scheduled in advanced or are they like if you didn't fly that day that was your day off? Are the days hard days off? If they are scheduled in advance, how far in advance?
Training Contracts?
If so how long? Initial
Recurrent
I'm just trying to compare apples with apples.
Training Contracts?
If so how long? Initial
Recurrent
I'm just trying to compare apples with apples.
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So you guys have a min. of 8 days off a month. Are these days Scheduled in advanced or are they like if you didn't fly that day that was your day off? Are the days hard days off? If they are scheduled in advance, how far in advance?
Training Contracts?
If so how long? Initial
Recurrent
I'm just trying to compare apples with apples.
Training Contracts?
If so how long? Initial
Recurrent
I'm just trying to compare apples with apples.
Each airplane is staffed with three pilots. Lead pilot (captain), Captain, and SIC. The three pilots decide which days they want off among themselves. The lead pilot submits the days by the 15th day of the preceding month. These days get incorporated into the days off schedule and it is posted by the 20th.
2 year initial training contract. 10 month recurrent.
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Do you guys hire on a part-time basis? I will be flying for a large international airline based out of JFK starting in August and would be available late December. I live 30 mins from ISP. I will have 5-7 on, 5-7 off schedules. If so I will be glad to forward a resume.
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We only hire full-time pilots. Thanks for the offer..
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No disrespect intended, but those are bold statements coming from a 135 CP on a public forum. If a 135 CP feels comfortable enough making a statement like that in public, then apparently there are not enough 135 pilots out there who are aware that the law is on the side of safety in the on-call dilemma. Perhaps a few of them will read this.
There are several interpretive letters issued by the FAA regarding the definition of rest. Here is a quote from one of them, a letter from Donald P. Byrne, Assistant Chief Counsel, FAA, to Frederick G. Pappas, Jr., Director, Flight Services, Midwest Corporate Aviation, Inc. (June 24, 1991):
"[A] rest period must be prospective in nature. Stated another way, a flight crewmember must be told in advance that he or she will be on a rest period for the duration required by the regulations. In addition, a rest period must be free of all restraint....Moreover, a flight crewmember in a rest period must be free of present responsibility for work should the occasion arise." (see link below)
The US Court of Appeals, First Circuit found that interpretation of rest to be reasonable. They also found that the FAA could take enforcement action against pilots and 135 certificate holders for violating that interpretation (again see link below).
So, at the end of every 14 hours on call a 135 operator must release a pilot for 10 hours of rest if they expect him/her to be legal for another 14 hours at the beginning of the next 24. On call is not rest time! If the company assigns and the pilot accepts a flight without 10 hours of rest (that were determined in advance, were continuous, and were free from any responsibility to the company) in the 24 preceding the end of duty, then the pilot and company can (and will according to FAA Notice (again see below link)) be violated!
To give an example, if you (pilot) have been on call for 12 hours (say it's 2100) and company calls and assigns you duty from 2200 to 0200 it is a violation to assign/accept that flight. Realistically speaking (1 hour to report + 1 hour preflight + 12 = 14) at 12 hours on call, the company must give you 10 hours of rest before requiring you to report for duty.
Come on guys, stop doing this stuff for these guys. Stop risking your license, future, and life (fatigue)! If the boss wants to have a jet available to him on a moments notice, then he should hire adequate crews to handle a situation like that.
http://www.ca1.uscourts.gov/pdf.opin...9-1888-01A.pdf
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