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mesasurvivor 05-05-2009 11:11 PM

Status of Anheuser Busch Flight Ops
 
I have a couple of acquaintances that were flying for Anheuser Busch Corporate Flight Operations. Haven't spoken to anyone over there since the InBev buyout. Does anyone have any information on the status of the flight department, the current & projected fleet, what is happening to the pilots & maintenance folks, etc.

Thanks!

G400driver 05-06-2009 07:53 AM

I know nothing but would think you would be the one with all of the info since you have friends on the inside. How about giving them a call?

Just a suggestion...

jeforte 05-06-2009 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by mesasurvivor (Post 606149)
I have a couple of acquaintances that were flying for Anheuser Busch Corporate Flight Operations. Haven't spoken to anyone over there since the InBev buyout. Does anyone have any information on the status of the flight department, the current & projected fleet, what is happening to the pilots & maintenance folks, etc.

Thanks!

.....just a suggestion

mesasurvivor 05-06-2009 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by G400driver (Post 606242)
I know nothing but would think you would be the one with all of the info since you have friends on the inside. How about giving them a call?

Just a suggestion...

I said that these folks were acquaintances, not friends. Haven't spoken to them in years & just wanted to know if anybody knew anything about what was going on with AB. Didn't mean to get your paranoid panties in a wad!

If anyone who has any constructive (non-silly) information on AB, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

Pilotpip 05-06-2009 07:25 PM

They're gone.

I don't know the specifics, but a couple friends that worked line service there have been let go and it's my understanding that they are ceasing ops soon.

Strike yet another dream job off the list...

G400driver 05-06-2009 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by mesasurvivor (Post 606448)
I said that these folks were acquaintances, not friends. Haven't spoken to them in years & just wanted to know if anybody knew anything about what was going on with AB. Didn't mean to get your paranoid panties in a wad!

If anyone who has any constructive (non-silly) information on AB, I would appreciate it.

Thanks

First, you got me. I did write 'friends' and not 'acquaintances', but there was nothing silly in what I wrote. I was completely serious and would think that any professional member of the AB flight department would be more than happy to field a phone call from another pilot, even at the level of an acquaintance, that might be interested in AB. It's called networking. I, and I'm sure a few others, do it all the time. There are guys that I haven't seen since an initial class six years ago, but I still call or send them an email every couple of years just to touch base with them. Even if it's to make sure their contact info is still good, I keep networking.

I'll make the suggestion again. Call them. If you don't have a good number, send me a PM. I might be able to dig up an office number for you.



Originally Posted by mesasurvivor (Post 606448)
Didn't mean to get your paranoid panties in a wad!

Second, who's the one being silly again? :confused: And what exactly is the meaning of the above statement?

Finally, I don't know how much more constructive one could be. I told the truth, and I still know nothing about AB. :rolleyes:


Edit: Well, there you go. Pilotpip to the rescue. I'll officially retract my suggestion but never stop the networking. Although, I'm saddened to hear of the closing of AB's flight department.

NowCorporate 05-08-2009 03:42 AM


Originally Posted by mesasurvivor (Post 606149)
I have a couple of acquaintances that were flying for Anheuser Busch Corporate Flight Operations. Haven't spoken to anyone over there since the InBev buyout. Does anyone have any information on the status of the flight department, the current & projected fleet, what is happening to the pilots & maintenance folks, etc.

Thanks!

Or you could really venture out....get the NBAA book with their contact number and pick up the phone! "Hi, Im looking for a pilot position, can I send you a resume or talk to your Chief Pilot?" (If the office is still open)

You are 100% wasting your time digging for info on the internet these days, if you do get info, chances are its not very reliable.

Unless you talk to a few people who actually work there you will just be getting half-ass info from a "friend of a friend" passed on from a message board from a guy desperate to appear "in the know"

Check the major boards, they are all inhabitated by the same 75 clowns. If you can get in touch and actually talk (meet in person ideally) who works there, you can then network...other than that...posting random messages is really a waste of time.

I know a few people getting pretty good corporate jobs these days. 5 or 6 in the last month or two on Globals, Falcons, etc...and not one of the jobs came from the internet.

Good Luck.

N118NW 05-08-2009 10:10 AM

Well, I agree if you had means of communicating then yeah you should have called them first, they'd probably have more info than anyone else here.. but if you didn't have any way to contact them then there's no problem posting it here..

But there was no reason to snicker back at a suggestion. A simple reply in "I don't have their phone number or email addresses" could have sufficed.

dhc8fo 05-08-2009 10:46 AM

GOOD LORD PEOPLE, don't you think the guy would have called directly if he had a way of calling???? Just give him the juicy if you have it. If not, shut up.

Jeez.....:rolleyes:

Niner 05-08-2009 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 606539)
They're gone.

I don't know the specifics, but a couple friends that worked line service there have been let go and it's my understanding that they are ceasing ops soon.

Strike yet another dream job off the list...

I have also heard that they are shutting down their flight department. I've heard that InBev is destroying that company and shutting down anything that isn't necessary, including the Anheuser Busch farm.

NowCorporate 05-08-2009 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by dhc8fo (Post 607214)
GOOD LORD PEOPLE, don't you think the guy would have called directly if he had a way of calling???? Just give him the juicy if you have it. If not, shut up.

Jeez.....:rolleyes:

Here's the juicy:

How about investing a few bucks in an NBAA guide to every participating corporate operator in existence, including Chief Pilot/DO names, numbers, emails, etc. Pick up the phone (remember that thing that dials people?) and say "Hey Budweiser dude Chief Pilot, are ya hiring?, and can I send ya a resume?"

Job search 101 today - get the hell off the internet and go meet some people. Its slightly competitive out there right now.

good luck otherwise.

;)

mesasurvivor 05-14-2009 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Niner (Post 607282)
I have also heard that they are shutting down their flight department. I've heard that InBev is destroying that company and shutting down anything that isn't necessary, including the Anheuser Busch farm.

Hey everyone...thanks to everyone for the info. Terrible news about the AB flight department. When I lived in St. Louis, this was the absolute BEST company and the BEST flying job in the world....PERIOD! What a shame!

As far as the "getting off the internet" and using the phone, etc. for a job search...I do appreciate the information, however it is not relevant in my case. It has been a long time since I have flown any corporate, and I am not looking for a job anymore, therefore I have no use for an NBAA list, networking, etc.

Did all the networking, phoning, etc. years ago when I went from corporate to the regionals and on to Southwest. Hopefully the next job I will interview for will be in about 15 years or so when I move on to be a Wal Mart greeter!

I truly was just interested in the people I knew a long time ago that worked there. Absolutely nothing else! Hate to see what is happening everywhere in corporate aviation these days. Best of luck to everyone!

Floyd94 05-14-2009 04:15 PM

[quote=mesasurvivor;610766] When I lived in St. Louis, this was the absolute BEST company and the BEST flying job in the world....PERIOD! What a shame!
quote]

Now Im curious, what made it the "BEST"?

Pilotpip 05-14-2009 05:43 PM

Very good pay, very well maintained aircraft, very well staffed, no charter.

That flight department was so well run that even line service was a good, well paid position.

And free beer.

Floyd94 05-14-2009 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by Pilotpip (Post 610960)
Very good pay, very well maintained aircraft, very well staffed, no charter.

That flight department was so well run that even line service was a good, well paid position.

And free beer.


Ok, lots of flight departments have that. I guess the free beer separates them from the rest...

Zach 05-14-2009 07:09 PM

I viewed them as pretty much even with 2 other flight departments on the field.

kalymnos 05-16-2009 08:15 PM

I hear these words "dream job" so often thrown around, seriously....when you can turn right at the top of the steps and not left anymore and grab a napkin that has a N number and your initals at the end....thats a "dream job" ....life is way to short to be sitting in a seat for years talking about the same hotels, meals and war stories....all the while transporting other people to their dreams......If you call a dream job, on call your whole life, paycheck JOB (Just Over Broke), politics and living in your CP's world, hotel bars, the same food chains, the same patronizing smile from the middle managers and VP's who point at you and are soooo proud of themselves for remembering your name, cleaning cabins and listening to your fellow pilots dismantle the reg's and safety protocol with conviction and the hope of nobody finds out that they are sooooo lucky to have that job because they would never make it anywhere else....

this is not to insult anybody, but my dreams are much bigger

Pilotpip 05-16-2009 08:43 PM

6 figures and no on-call sounds like a good living to me. I know a few that have retired from A-B and spoke quite highly of it before In-Bev came along and gutted the whole company.

I bet you're a gem to share a cockpit with.

NowCorporate 05-19-2009 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by kalymnos (Post 612158)
I hear these words "dream job" so often thrown around, seriously....when you can turn right at the top of the steps and not left anymore and grab a napkin that has a N number and your initals at the end....thats a "dream job" ....life is way to short to be sitting in a seat for years talking about the same hotels, meals and war stories....all the while transporting other people to their dreams......If you call a dream job, on call your whole life, paycheck JOB (Just Over Broke), politics and living in your CP's world, hotel bars, the same food chains, the same patronizing smile from the middle managers and VP's who point at you and are soooo proud of themselves for remembering your name, cleaning cabins and listening to your fellow pilots dismantle the reg's and safety protocol with conviction and the hope of nobody finds out that they are sooooo lucky to have that job because they would never make it anywhere else....

this is not to insult anybody, but my dreams are much bigger

Your dreams are bigger?.. yet you take the time to post this rant on a pilot message board...

sounds like your dreams are still far from taking a left at the top of the stairs, nevermind a right...

:rolleyes:

kalymnos 05-20-2009 06:19 PM

I guarantee I have turned left mort often than you and I'm on my way to turning right $$... did the facts of my post strike a nerve...those are the realities of corp. flying. Im sorry that it offended you but I dont see any corp. flying job as a "dream job" I see flying corp. jobs as overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated, it may be different in your eyes....
I often wonder why pilots find it a moral and vital imparitive to be right about everything. I figured out a few things.. in every fbo, every pilot you talk to has the BEST job with flying the BEST a/c and the BEST future, quite comical, very compeitive work group with little grasp on the finacial and personal implications of a corp. job. If the best part of your job is the hotel points and high priced dinners and corp. expense...not to dreamy.
I found it very unispiring to be out on the road with people you have not to much in common, seeing things without your family wasnt very much fun...and stuffing myself at a high priced bistro with the same clothes on for 2-3 days got old real quick.. I can paint a rosy picture for you and make you feel better but what am I saying that YOU have not b*tched about a thousand times to your spouse or co-workers. If you deny it your a LIAR plane and simple I have been with a thousand crews and its all the same conversation, food, war stories, then griping....every once and a while you'll find someone who likes boats and that makes for a quick ride...at least 121 you may no see the SOB again but 91 Oooh the landmines and brownnosing.. I saw in 91, it wasnt how good you were, it was how bad the other guy was compared to you....good day

NowCorporate 05-20-2009 07:18 PM

Wow.

While I dont plan on getting rich flying airplanes, it certainly is a pretty good job and an OK paycheck...always has been.

I really cant relate at all to what you ramble here (in broken english?)

Again, why do you post on a corporate pilot board if you hate corporate aviation are now getting rich doing other things? what a joke!

And I really have to ask after painfully reading your extra long paragraph...why in the world do you wear the same clothes for 3 days while you are on the road? - thats kinda nasty buddy.

:confused:


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