Quiet Spike

Nowhere did I use the word "safer", I used "advantage". With over 4,000 hours in four-engine planes and 2,500 in international two-engine. bizjets, I believe safety isn't the issue, but capability with an engine shutdown is. Admittedly, not a large issue, but could be a telling one for trans-polar, trans-Siberian or long Pacific flights.

For example, PANC -UUWW, would you really want to put your plane and pax into BGTL after a engine loss or fly for 4 hours on one to northern Norway. The other option is a flight at lower latitudes and much greater distance and time

GF

Overheard on Center the other day...conversation between a 7X crew & DA-2000. 7X was at 450 (or somewhere around there)....DA2000 was in the mid to high 30's. They asked what model the Falcon was at 450. 2000 crew asks the 7X how they like the a/c.....they said "it's great, if you like doing avionics/data "reboots"..(or something to that effect).

I'm sure the 7x is a fine a/c, but it sounds like it's having teething pains from being the"A" model. I've never heard a G-V/550 crew complain about their bird openly.....not to say it hasn't happened.

Carry on...

Every new aircraft has it's glitches that needs to be ironed out. G150 has the proline 21 system that's been around for years and it's been known for having to "reboot" or make a dark aircraft on occasion. But it's still a great airplane.

Flown any of the above aircraft? or just getting all these conclusions from an overheard radio conversation?

You have never heard G5 pilots complain about the APU? the brakes? screens going blank?

Maybe ask the next one your hear flying overhead?

No, I haven't. I was just relating a story I heard on center a few weeks ago. I 'm fully aware that new a/c have teething pains.

No need to get all worked up.

Back to your Falcon vs Gulfstream battle...

This is normal and not just a Falcon thing. The G4 brake by wire system was so bad that GAC actually started re installing hydraulic brakes. The G5 hydraulic system was so bad that GAC had to take out all the dual Vickers pump systems and replace them with a single Abex pump system. Ask any G550 pilot about tubes blanking out with certification c.

G4G5 has it right.

I cannot speak for the Gulfstreams (never flown them), but I can for the 7X. I have done my fair share of "re-init"s (power down, wait 5 min, power up) to clear fault messages and it is frustrating, but not as often as I used to. Our dispatch rate is about 98% since the latest software upgrade. In 18 months I have only seen one mechanical issue. The rest have been avionics related.

The 7X is growing on me. It may even nudge past my favorite airplane to fly, the F2000Easy.

It's all about Load 10.

It did fix a lot of stuff....maybe Load 15 will bring perfection!

:)

Actually, Load 10 fixed some problems and caused new ones. I would imagine it will take a lot more than 15 to be "perfection". :D