Falcon 7X
 

Does anyone have any idea of the number of Falcon 7X's in the states? Any located in the Northeast area?

Southwestern Bell has 1 so far at DAL. Soon to be more. Not sure about the northeast.

Did you get offered the job at CAE in KMMU? :D
Just wondering.

Job? Sim job?
I have talked to them about getting a type rating. The 7X is billed as the first fly-by-wire corporate jet. I came across a lot of the aircraft documentation on the net and it's impressive. If I get a type rating I want to get it on an A/C that will be around for a while and pays a good wage.

I know of at least 6 or 7 in the NY/NJ/CT area. United Technologies, Travelers Insurance, CitiGroup, W R Berkley (insurance).

Looks like a nice airplane to fly. Certainly more advanced than your A320. Check it out:

YouTube - Falcon 7X

Much, much, much more advanced than that Barbie jet your flying Lumberg! :) At least you got the girl though! Poor Peter.

excellent plan.... good time to be a 7X contract pilot.... what I hear, 7X contract pilots make lots of $$$. reason being, not many people are type rated in that thing, so the few that are charge whatever they want... at present, 7X contract jobs pay more than a G-550 or Global would

True cgt. My barbie jet is ARCHAIC. I remember feeling a bit depressed about it one day and then I jumpsat on a NWA Diesel 9. I couldn't believe all of those dials and switches. I felt better about my "cutting edge" technology in comparison after that.

I'd happily trade you for your E190 if you are interested... I like that HUD!

where can you go to pay for a type rating on the 7x

FSI, CAE

A contract pilot can get the best rate, $43,000 at CAE.
Do you need a Sim Partner?

Just how much 7X contract work is out there...and how much can one expect to get without any former large-cabin Falcon experience?

$43k is a LOT of money to spend hoping for a payoff...

correct Boilerup, $43K is a lot of money. I hear the daily rate is around $1900, but $43,00 is just too much money. I'd be in a world of hurt if I borrowed that much money and couldn't find any work.

gotta a feeling 7X operators are more concerned about over-water international experience than time in large cabin Falcons...

their is about 18 in the states and 42 tot made so far right now they are billing #43 and 44 i saw it in france at the fac.

Unless something has changed, CAE has the exclusive contract on the 7X at the moment. FSI does not have a 7X sim yet.

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...bbreid/089.jpg
Magna International's new Falcon 7X C-GMGX landing at CYKZ near Toronto.
This is serial number 50, it flew to Little Rock, Nov 18 last year, and was delivered to Magna this past July. Only one on Canadian registry.

US registered 7X's,

N12U . . . . c/n 53 . . . . United Technologies, Hartford CT
N171EX . . . . 24 . . . . . Sky River Consulting, Belgrade MT
N188SW . . . .23 . . . . . AF Holdings Inc, Oxford CT
N207TR . . . . 35 . . . . . Travelers Idemnity, Windsor Locks CT
N273JC . . . . 18 . . . . . Cisco Systems, San Jose CA
N55LC . . . . . 38 . . . . .Lowes Companies Inc, Mooresville NC
N62FJ . . . . . 62 . . . . .Falcon Jet, Teterboro NJ
N671WB . . . .29 . . . . . WRBC Transportation Inc, Greenwich CT
N70FL . . . . . 07 . . . . . Andy Deutsch/Flight Levels Corp, Perkasie PA
N748FJ . . . . 48 . . . . .Falcon Jet, Teterboro NJ
N763FJ . . . . 63 . . . . .Falcon Jet, Teterboro NJ
N7707X . . . . 16 . . . . . ACM Aviation Inc, Belgrade Mt
N786CS . . . . 31 . . . . . Valkyrie 7X LLC, Seattle WA
N7MR . . . . . .26 . . . . . SCB Falcon LLC, Scottsdale AZ
N7X . . . . . . .33 . . . . . ZG Aircraft Leasing LLC, Tampa FL
N8000E . . . . 25 . . . . . Emerson Electric Co, Chesterfield MO
N817X . . . . .51 . . . . . TP Aviation LLC, Oklahoma City OK
N900DW . . . 39 . . . . . unknown
N907SB . . . .13 . . . . . Falcon 7X-13 LLC, Dallas TX
N999BE . . . . 9 . . . . . Bernie Eccelstone (Formula One) UK

Did ATT get rid of their 7X? Its conspicuously missing from that list...

I just met with FSI and they told me they won't have the sim until late 2010 or early 2011.

according to Landings, 900DW is still registered to Falcon Jet, Teterboro

N907SB . . . .13 . . . . . Falcon 7X-13 LLC, Dallas TX


:cool:

Francis Ford Coppola was on Stern the other morning and made a remark they (the winery) were getting one delivered soon, probably based somewhere around Napa

Many owners are getting rid of their 7x.... I wonder why.

No problems with N12U. She's been running great. The only reason to get rid of a 7X is because you can no longer afford it or you are trying to make $$$ by flipping it.

I noticed N12U was a GIV before, how does the 7X perform compared to Gulfstreams?
Our company owns a Falcon 50 and just bought a G450 to be delivered summer '10. Thanks in advance.

N12U was indeed a G-IV. The 7X has a lot more range, M85 cruise, more neat features for pax as far as connect ability goes. Big window for pax. Excellent visibility for the pilots up front. Far better than the G-IV. The 7X is very quiet in the cabin. The 7X is extremely quiet in the cockpit compared to the G-IV. Pilots can talk at regular levels- no windshield wipers making noise either.

The best part of the plane is the 3 Pratt and Whitney's back there. Sorry- shameless plug for UTC.

One thing I can't wrap my hear around is the relatively low power to weight ratio for the 7X. Approx 3.56:1 right? Is that noticeable on high and hot or any other circumstances?

I would guess it doesn't need the higher THR/WT ratio of a twin due to it still having 2/3 power for eng out climb req's.

More than a few 7X pilots have noted the 10k or so less total thrust available. They also note how big the thrust feels during takeoff. We don't have many high and hot destinations, so I doubt we'll ever have a problem with that. If we need to go to KTEX in the summer we'd probably send our Hawker 4000, which has a lot of muscle.

Quimby: True, with OEI ops it still has more power than the two engine competitors. But overall I was expecting more, at least below the 3.0:1 ratio. The G550 comes in around 2.78:1 and it needs that power especially for OEI ops. But our pilots still comment on how it's a rocket ship. I operate out of the rockies so ASE, EGE, JAC are our backyard. I just hate telling owners/clients to leave people/bags behind or we need a fuel stop.

Thanks for the reply. It seems like your getting to play with all the great toys.

Does anyone know the serial numbers being at completion centers at the moment? Delivery schedules for this year? Waiting for one in the early 100's....

"the best part of the plane is the 3 Pratt and Whitney's back there"

Well isn't that the bad part, now you have 3 engines to upkeep instead of two???

I do love the bird, check out the cockpit, that is a high-tech as it gets

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassa...9f2ca9797be3df

Conklin de Decker shows the 7X burns 380gph and the G550 (which is more efficient than the G450) burns 450gph.

It also shows PW ESP for the 7X's 3 PW307s costs about $150/hr less than RR Corporate Care for the G550s 2 BR710s.

Boiler, where do you get your info? I think it's great!

I am a ginormous airplane nerd.

But I get my info from Conklin...;)

He usually has pretty good info/data.

isn't that amazing, the 3 engine 7X costs less to maintain than the almighty Gulfstream? interesting... especially if we take the airline trend into consideration, they replaced MD11s and 747s with 767s & 777s, the A330 sold much better than the A340..

I think the big difference is 3-hole Falcons have engines that are small in comparison with their competition's 2-engine offerings of similar MTOW, both in terms of physical size and thrust output.

Then again, I've never heard a 3-hole Falcon (at least the 731-powered 50/900) be accused of having too much power :D

Thanks. Looking on their website, some the products are pretty expensive. Or are you getting most of your info free?

There are various sources to get CDD data, if not their products.

CTI - Global Jet Sales is probably the best and most user-friendly

Great website, thanks.