Maintaining currency on multiple types 61.58?
02-20-2014, 09:22 AM
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Maintaining currency on multiple types 61.58?
Ran into another pilot the other day who was telling me something about currency on 2 types and that only 1 PC is required per 61.58 in 12 months to satisfy maintaining currency on both types. I never heard this before.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
02-20-2014, 10:08 AM
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Maintaining currency on multiple types 61.58?
If it's the same category and class (ie C310 and a PA31) then all you need is the one check. If it is a type, like you said, then you will need a check done in each type of aircraft (ie BE40 and a C650).
02-20-2014, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by f10a
Ran into another pilot the other day who was telling me something about currency on 2 types and that only 1 PC is required per 61.58 in 12 months to satisfy maintaining currency on both types. I never heard this before. Thoughts?
§ 61.58 Pilot-in-command proficiency check: Operation of an aircraft that requires more than one pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, to serve as pilot in command of an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered, a person must—
(1) Within the preceding 12 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered; and
(2) Within the preceding 24 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in the particular type of aircraft in which that person will serve as pilot in command, that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered.
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, to serve as pilot in command of an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered, a person must—
(1) Within the preceding 12 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in an aircraft that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered; and
(2) Within the preceding 24 calendar months, complete a pilot-in-command proficiency check in the particular type of aircraft in which that person will serve as pilot in command, that is type certificated for more than one required pilot flight crewmember or is turbojet-powered.
02-20-2014, 02:23 PM
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So if one is typed in a DA900 and a CL604, for example, is 1 PC in either model all that is needed to fly either for up to 24 months?
If you are part 91 all you have to do is take a PIC check in the DA900 one year and the CL604 the next year. This will satisfy the "FAA regulations" for PIC currency in both aircraft. However you better check with your insurance company because they usually require a PIC check in each aircraft you will be PIC on within the last 12 months.
If you are part 91 all you have to do is take a PIC check in the DA900 one year and the CL604 the next year. This will satisfy the "FAA regulations" for PIC currency in both aircraft. However you better check with your insurance company because they usually require a PIC check in each aircraft you will be PIC on within the last 12 months.
02-20-2014, 02:24 PM
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So if one is typed in a DA900 and a CL604, for example, is 1 PC in either model all that is needed to fly either for up to 24 months?
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02-20-2014, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GVCPT
So if one is typed in a DA900 and a CL604, for example, is 1 PC in either model all that is needed to fly either for up to 24 months?
If you are part 91 all you have to do is take a PIC check in the DA900 one year and the CL604 the next year. This will satisfy the "FAA regulations" for PIC currency in both aircraft. However you better check with your insurance company because they usually require a PIC check in each aircraft you will be PIC on within the last 12 months.
If you are part 91 all you have to do is take a PIC check in the DA900 one year and the CL604 the next year. This will satisfy the "FAA regulations" for PIC currency in both aircraft. However you better check with your insurance company because they usually require a PIC check in each aircraft you will be PIC on within the last 12 months.
02-22-2014, 03:12 AM
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I'd say yes-- the plane you're 91 on wouldn't trigger the extra year on the 135/121 plane, but the 135/121 plane would trigger the extra year on the 91 plane.
Based on 135/121 rides are "more extensive" than 91 rides. If you look in the training center course descriptions (the documents approved by the FAA) they usually say a 61.58 says counts for an instrument competency check, full landing currency, biannual flight reviews etc.
so in theory, a 121 ride would cover the 61.58 since it would include a normal recurrent + all the super fancy stuff airline pilots do.
I see emails from people looking for 91 CRJ/Erj contract pilots--they usually specify either a yearly recurrent on another recurrent in the precious year with a CRJ/Erj within 2. Think of a regional guy who got hired/trained by a major---in year two, he could go contract on a 91 CRJ/Erj, based on his 737/airbus 121 initial.
Based on 135/121 rides are "more extensive" than 91 rides. If you look in the training center course descriptions (the documents approved by the FAA) they usually say a 61.58 says counts for an instrument competency check, full landing currency, biannual flight reviews etc.
so in theory, a 121 ride would cover the 61.58 since it would include a normal recurrent + all the super fancy stuff airline pilots do.
I see emails from people looking for 91 CRJ/Erj contract pilots--they usually specify either a yearly recurrent on another recurrent in the precious year with a CRJ/Erj within 2. Think of a regional guy who got hired/trained by a major---in year two, he could go contract on a 91 CRJ/Erj, based on his 737/airbus 121 initial.
Originally Posted by f10a
Thanks, this is how I understood it. But what about a 121 or 135 PC - will that also satisfy the 91 PC?
