Originally Posted by dckozak (Post 3041923)

And the Great Fauci failed to ever mention ingesting Clorox was a cure. Whats with that?? :rolleyes:

POTUS HAS THE ANSWERS. just listen and learn, young Palawan ;)

Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 3041894)

I propose a one-month closing of all gas stations in the US, starting now. No stay at home order, just no gas.

Typically people who own electric cars are responsible/intelligent enough to follow government guidelines, or at least use discretion when venturing out in public.

CV mitigated by June 1st.

Originally Posted by badflaps (Post 3041970)

Do you remember the '73 gas crunch? I hope you are kidding.

Originally Posted by beetlehog (Post 3041794)

Probably because the 50+K dead already isn't accurate and vastly inflated. Just follow the money in this whole thing. How much money does Medicaid/Medicare pay per hospital bed people? $13K. How much if that person just happens to have Covid? $39K. The experts freely admit that if someone has severe comorbidities but has Covid, they died of Covid even though they smoked for 25 years and were 100 lb overweight. If you look at the actual numbers the CDC has put out we are at less than 1% mortality. Out of 100 Covid patients 96 will recover. Of the 4 that die 90% of those had severe health problems to begin with. "We need 30K ventilators". they used 5K in NY. What a joke. We made GM make ventilators!!! This is such a self inflicted event folks. Absolutely crazy. Sweden must be laughing their butts off.

The Governors who are still beating the lockdown drum are waiting for the bailout money from Uncle sugar. This whole thing was an exercise on how much control our leaders can exercise in emergency situations. It has worked really well for them. Wake up now folks!

Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 3041987)

Those criticizing the “get back to work” crowd don’t have any fool-proof solutions either, short of “stay home” until we tell you it’s safe, another milestone there’s no consensus on, and will ultimately be an arbitrary decision made when political pressure becomes too great for said elected officials’ political career to withstand. That’s not realistic.

Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 3042047)

You know, this part got me thinking. What would make me satisfied that we were doing enough to face this threat? And I haven't been able to articulate it until this reply.

This should have been our generation's moonshot. America used to be able to do amazing things, impossible things. But we're lost and divided, a shadow of our former selves. Here's how it should have gone down.

A national call to action. Part of preventing a second wave is containment of hotspots and flare ups. So when clusters breakout we can get to the source and isolate quickly. That means contact tracing. We can do that utilizing 2 ways: technology and manpower. Apple and Google are codeveloping an app that could track if you came within the vicinity of someone who later tested positive. Combine that with boots on the ground tracers and we might just prevent a second wave. We could have hired 100,000 contact tracers and put them in every town to insure this doesn't go nationwide again.

Our pharmaceutical infrastructure is decimated. When and if a vaccine will be developed, we'll need hundreds of millions of doses. And we'll have to import them from other countries. I doubt we'll be a priority. We should be building massive testing and pharma labs today.

Set up screenings at airports and other public places. Yes, it may not be completely effective, but it will give the public confidence. Right now, everyone is panicked out of their minds. People need to see that we're taking steps to insure their safety, or they're not going to do anything. We need people to feel confident to fly.

These steps would be massive undertakings. Hard work. But seeing this sort of collaborative effort in working towards a common goal would have been unifying.

I try to think what FDR would have done in this scenario. We could use someone like him right now.

Originally Posted by Speed Select (Post 3042090)

A CV Patriot Act? I’m partly tongue in cheek and partly serious in referencing that. Lots of unintended consequences in that Pandora’s Box.

My concern is right to privacy, due process, and our viability as a society in regards to restrictions.

Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 3042105)

Nothing that I've said can't be undone after the crisis is over.