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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
(Post 3077716)
You actually used the terms "Karen, selfish science denier, and anti-vaxxer." Oh, and don't forget "douche." All in one post. Not insulting at all....tons of "fact-based rhetoric" there.
Were you "making fun" of those internet troll labels? Yeah, didn't think so. I didn’t call anyone on here names. I was talking about this hypothetical person on an airplane that refuses to wear a mask. That guy is the douche. |
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
(Post 3077681)
It seems like "that guy" who refuses to wear a mask is usually some overweight, redneck idiot. Probably needs the seat belt extenders, and gets out of breath walking up the jet way.
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Originally Posted by flydrive
(Post 3077826)
You would force a person with breathing problems to intentionally restrict their own airway?
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Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
(Post 3077677)
uh huh. And do you wear N95 masks?
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Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver
(Post 3077562)
This ^^^^
WHO: This virus doesn't transmit human to human, China said so....... Uh, sorry, yes it does. Fauci: If you're a healthy young person, sure, you can go on a cruise..... Uh, we're shutting the cruise lines down. Fauci: This virus doesn't really pose a threat to the US.... Uh, this is a very serious threat and we must lock down to flatten the curve. Pelosi: Sure you should come to Chinatown San Francisco for Chinese New Year.... Uh, Trump is going to kill us all! Pelosi, Shumer, et al: Trump is a xenophobe and a racist for shutting down flights from China..... Uh, he should have done it SOONER! CDC: You don't need to wear a mask, they really don't do much.... Uh, everybody MUST wear a mask! CDC: You must disinfect eveything because Covid on surfaces is a terrible threat.... Uh, yea, sorry, Covid doesn't appear to transmit from surfaces. WHO, CDC: Oh my God, asymptomatic people can spread the disease so we have to lock down EVERYBODY! Uh, no, it doesn't appear asymptomatic people spread the disease....no, no, wait, yes they DO! CDC, et al: People gathering to PEACEFULLY protest the lockdowns is just TERRIBLE and will lead to people DIEING! Uh, 100,000 people chock a block in the streets screaming, burning, and looting is cool because, you know, it's a righteous cause. There are more examples, but you get the idea. The "scientific" community and "smart people" have burned their credibility to the ground. I 100% agree that their messaging has been horrendous. Absolutely. But, this is a result of politicizing science. The science was there, and has been for decades in mask wearing. The plans were there. But in our case, we have a leadership team that has made a career of a war on science. When was the first major interview of the actual CDC director after 15 Jan? When did open source reporting of human-human transmission occur? Imperial wrote about it in mid-late January, basically assessing it had to be human-human and China had to be under reporting. South Korea and several others followed the guidance of their scientists and ironically “our” scientists and consequently have 99% less mortality in the 4 months since their 15th case (adjusted for population). Perhaps the war on science has found its first 115,000 casualties. |
Originally Posted by flydrive
(Post 3077826)
You would force a person with breathing problems to intentionally restrict their own airway?
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot
(Post 3077991)
Wait... Are you suggesting someone with breathing problems that severe should get in an airplane and undergo a cabin altitude of over 6,000 ft for several hours? That alone would likely kill them if they can't even wear a mask.
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Originally Posted by samc
(Post 3077983)
I 100% agree that their messaging has been horrendous. Absolutely. But, this is a result of politicizing science. The science was there, and has been for decades in mask wearing. The plans were there. But in our case, we have a leadership team that has made a career of a war on science.
When was the first major interview of the actual CDC director after 15 Jan? When did open source reporting of human-human transmission occur? Imperial wrote about it in mid-late January, basically assessing it had to be human-human and China had to be under reporting. South Korea and several others followed the guidance of their scientists and ironically “our” scientists and consequently have 99% less mortality in the 4 months since their 15th case (adjusted for population). Perhaps the war on science has found its first 115,000 casualties. Slowing the Coronavirus Is Speeding the Spread of Other DiseasesMany mass immunization efforts worldwide were halted this spring to prevent spread of the virus at crowded inoculation sites. The consequences have been alarming.https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020...isable=upscale Three-year-old Allay Ngandema, who contracted measles, ate lunch with his mother, Maboa Alpha, in the measles isolation ward in Boso-Manzi hospital in the Democratic Republic of Congo in late February.Credit...Hereward Holland/ReutersBy Jan Hoffman and Ruth Maclean
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/h...s-measles.html https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...who-and-unicef At least 80 million children under one at risk of diseases such as diphtheria, measles and polio as COVID-19 disrupts routine vaccination efforts, warn Gavi, WHO and UNICEF The other infectious diseases spreading in the shadow of the pandemic Vaccinations and screenings for measles, tuberculosis, and other infectious diseases are down in the pandemic. By Katherine Harmon Courage Jun 17, 2020, 10:30am EDT In recent decades, the world has made dramatic progress in lowering the number of deaths from infectious diseases, including tuberculosis, HIV, malaria, and polio. But as campaigns are paused or cut back and as people miss routine care due to the coronavirus pandemic, these illnesses are getting a rare opportunity to come roaring back. Tuberculosis deaths were down worldwide almost 50 percent over the past two decades (to 1.3 million a year). But the illness is likely returning in many countries right now, and researchers estimate we could see as many as 1.4 million extra TB deaths over the next five years. Malaria deaths, too, which have been falling for decades, are likely to rise. Previous disruptions to anti-malaria efforts (such as during recent Ebola outbreaks) led to thousands of additional deaths from the mosquito-borne virus. And polio, which has been on the cusp of global eradication in recent years, could come surging back in places that have been working diligently for decades to eliminate it. Worldwide more than 140,000 people died from measles in 2018, according to new estimates from the World Health Organization (WHO) and the United States Centers for Diseases Control and Prevention (CDC). These deaths occurred as measles cases surged globally, amidst devastating outbreaks in all regions. Most deaths were among children under 5 years of age. Babies and very young children are at greatest risk from measles infections, with potential complications including pneumonia and encephalitis (a swelling of the brain), as well as lifelong disability - permanent brain damage, blindness or hearing loss. Recently published evidence shows that contracting the measles virus can have further long-term health impacts, with the virus damaging the immune system’s memory for months or even years following infection. This ‘immune amnesia’ leaves survivors vulnerable to other potentially deadly diseases, like influenza or severe diarrhoea, by harming the body’s immune defenses. |
Originally Posted by wrxpilot
(Post 3077991)
Wait... Are you suggesting someone with breathing problems that severe should get in an airplane and undergo a cabin altitude of over 6,000 ft for several hours? That alone would likely kill them if they can't even wear a mask.
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