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Originally Posted by contrails12
(Post 3084455)
He was for masks all along and don’t try and refute that claim with words from his own mouth because... there is no truth
https://twitter.com/surgeon_general/...932160?lang=en I think wearing masks is reasonable in many (but not all) situations, but please stop with the "but Trump said" nonsense. It's really not helpful. At best it will make some people not wear one just to spite you. |
Originally Posted by Anson Harris
(Post 3085199)
C'mon, man!
https://twitter.com/surgeon_general/...932160?lang=en I think wearing masks is reasonable in many (but not all) situations, but please stop with the "but Trump said" nonsense. It's really not helpful. At best it will make some people not wear one just to spite you. https://i.imgur.com/WqvnG44.png If masks and PPE are ineffective against Coronavirus, then why do healthcare providers need it? The answer is, masks ARE effective against COVID. They just didn't want the public to hoard supply. It's a cynical move. But completely understandable. And the martyrs of the forum (Looking at Excargodog) will throw their hands up and exclaim, "I'll never trust the gobmen't again!" like he's a wounded dog. Spare us the fake outrage. Trump, on the other hand, considers it a personal attack against him if you wear a mask. He's been telling people for months that the virus is going away "like a miracle." Wearing a mask contradicts his message. He doesn't like that. |
So what happens if the death rate doesn’t spike? Not claiming to know it will or it won’t. Does that mean there was widespread community spread all along? Or it could just mean we have better medical practices in place I guess? Even if it is determined that a massive portion of the US population already had or has Covid would that even change the public’s perception and make them fly more or would everyone still stay home?
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Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3085209)
Anyone with an IQ greater than 80 can see the gaping logic hole in that argument. Let's break it down.
https://i.imgur.com/WqvnG44.png If masks and PPE are ineffective against Coronavirus, then why do healthcare providers need it? The answer is, masks ARE effective against COVID. They just didn't want the public to hoard supply. It's a cynical move. But completely understandable. And the martyrs of the forum (Looking at Excargodog) will throw their hands up and exclaim, "I'll never trust the gobmen't again!" like he's a wounded dog. Spare us the fake outrage. . you, on the other hand, justified their actions because there had just been a run on toilet paper at Costco, (perhaps the very definition of butt-hurt). I stand by my assertion. in the meantime, numbers of cases are going up but thus far numbers of deaths seem to be continuing down. Let’s hope the latter at least continues. https://i.ibb.co/JsYv5Cb/2-F825-B6-C...09-FC78541.jpg https://i.ibb.co/TgpLYbw/358-DB0-A2-...6-D61-AFB2.jpg |
Originally Posted by mkitrn
(Post 3085238)
So what happens if the death rate doesn’t spike? Not claiming to know it will or it won’t. Does that mean there was widespread community spread all along? Or it could just mean we have better medical practices in place I guess? Even if it is determined that a massive portion of the US population already had or has Covid would that even change the public’s perception and make them fly more or would everyone still stay home?
A lot of people I know are Zoomin’ for work, having back yard BBQs with family over and going in their pools daily. The shock factor of the initial March shutdown is gone. People who held onto their job and can work from home have no desire analyze the stats. |
Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS
(Post 3085460)
This is exactly what I’ve been thinking about lately. Even if the CDC puts out a message that its confirmed, X million more people have had this and therefore its lethality drops to 0.4%. I don’t think anything will change. Not even if media somehow put out articles like “COVID less fatal than originally thought!” It’s all mental and personal now, no one that has gotten into the COVID quarantine groove is every going out again until a vaccine. Stats just won’t matter.... IMO
A lot of people I know are Zoomin’ for work, having back yard BBQs with family over and going in their pools daily. The shock factor of the initial March shutdown is gone. People who held onto their job and can work from home have no desire analyze the stats. |
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Originally Posted by AntiPeter
(Post 3083565)
Georgia was one of the first states to reopen. It has been reopen for over 2 months now.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ndemic/610882/ "Kemp’s move to reopen was condemned by scientists, high-ranking Republicans from his own state, and Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms; it even drew a public rebuke from President Donald Trump, who had reportedly approved the measures before distancing himself from the governor amid the backlash." Georgia's COVID-19 death rate has not increased. At all. "Gov. Brian Kemp’s aggressive scheme to lift Georgia out of COVID-19 lockdown may cost many thousands of lives, according to models prepared by epidemiologists and computer scientists at Harvard and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in partnership with The Daily Beast. By contrast, under Kemp’s current plan to reopen, if approved businesses returned to just 50 percent of their pre-pandemic activity (or “contact”) levels, that range could reach 1,604 to 4,236 deaths. At 100 percent of pre-shutdown activity, the projected final body count could soar to a range between 4,279 and 9,748." https://www.thedailybeast.com/ending...sands?ref=home I am shocked that people still believe the garbage that comes from epidemiologists and politicans. If any of the above quoted models were accurate, Florida should be over 6,000 total COVID-19 deaths right now, the actual number is 3,446. A nation of hysterics and cowards. The 7-day average death rate in Georgia is the same that is was before "sheltering in place" was ordered in April. |
Originally Posted by popcopy
(Post 3087509)
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On the seven day average...
Case numbers still going up and deaths still going down, although today we had somewhat of a spike in the latter...
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