Lockdown and Civil Unrest Discussion
 

I personally have had enough. I care no more for statistics, opinions, medical professionals, or where this thing started or came from. I'm willing to accept the risk.

I want my job. I want this company to survive. I want to grow and get back to normal, whatever that new normal may be regarding passengers. I want all restrictions removed. I sympathize with anyone who died, had family who passed away or got sick. I highly respect the beneficial information someone like Motch posted. My heart goes out to the family members who may die and those who may get sick in the future. Biological life is a battle eternally and always will be.

I don't care about your politics. I want to get this entire industry and country moving. It's been long enough. If you don't want to fly then take a leave of absence. If you are fearful then call out sick. I am willing to accept any and all risk like those of us who have been out there already flying the limited flights we have. Fear be damned! We must fly our customers and get back on the horse. We must go now before it is too late!

Ditto.....

Fully agree.

Agree, and the consensus is becoming most of us already had this back in January and February and it is not even close to as deadly as thought. Like .1%.

I can totally understand and empathize with your desire to get to work. It's been a month and it's killing me to not have an airplane to fly right now.

But your willingness to accept personal risk is not a decision you get to make for others. Your desire to disregard the professionals we have that spend a lifetime in public health and our practitioners, virologists, researchers and epidemiologists isn't wise. It's an emotional reaction to a perceived threat to your livelihood.

Rushing back to work now will result in much more damage to our economy and our infrastructure. We have to come through the other side of this with our healthcare system, pathetic as it is compared to the rest of the world, intact. Able to treat sick people. We cannot afford to needlessly kill much larger portions of the population than a return to normal ops would result in.

The experts are as close to correct as we're going to get. Just because they don't always get it perfect means we should abandon their counsel and start listening to politicians who can barely form a coherent sentence.

And what sucks the most? Is that we don't have the leadership in place to handle this. There's no coordinated response. No political detente as both sides set aside their concerns and act together for the good of country.

Just small groups of governors from both parties doing the best that they can. And many of them aren't up to the task.

It will be safe to go back to work when you see the White House open for daily tours again. It will be OK to drag your family to Hawaii and spend money when you see state houses open, with elected officials doing your work.

It will be safe to go back to work when agencies like the CDC says it is, and their scientists' conditions are all met.

Until then, it isn't safe for any of us to be out and about.

Post peer reviewed science that shows your assertion to be true or shut up.

Just the same could be said for the opposite, but certainly isnt the case.

Nice previous post Setobug. Im in the open up camp but I respect your position, its rational and is to the point. However....and there always is a however....if an individual chooses to take a risk why stop them? I see people guzzling booze, riding motorcycles without helmets and chuffing down cigarettes.....do you impose your will on them? No, you roll your eyes as do I.

To the quote, the complacent west needs to come to grips real quick with the impending need to make a decision on data which is 'good enough but not perfect'. Heck the climate change gang has been saying it for years.....'make a decision on what we know before its too late'. Why is this any different?

Simply put. The sledgehammer has come down but now its time to refine the approach.

Oh....and while Im at it, you dont seem too phased about others loosing their career. In the mean time then can you flick me $100k? Ill be loosing mine soon.

Each to their own.....and that includes getting out an about.

Just do a search for growing number of doctors analyzing actual data...it’s another coronavirus (ie the flu) with similar fatality rate. It was initially smart to shut down as conservative response to the unknown (largely fear-based), but now we are seeing that the risks from the shutdown are vastly greater than the risk of fatality from covid.

Just one example: There will be a spike of a variety of disease when the shutdowns end because of lost immunity from isolation, and there will be fewer medical personnel to deal with it.

Isolate the sick and vulnerable; not the healthy masses.