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furloughfuntime 07-04-2020 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by Anson Harris (Post 3086207)
As sad as this may be, this site is one of my best for staying informed on covid treatment. The regular media is beyond disappointing.

Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.

if you really think this is a place to get trustworthy medical information on covid treatment, then you are beyond naive. why would you think a bunch of pilots are a better source of information than doctors or public health professionals? would you ask a physician for his opinion on how you should fly a plane or manage an in-flight emergency?

Black Warrior 07-04-2020 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3086217)
why would you think a bunch of pilots are a better source of information than doctors or public health professionals? would you ask a physician for his opinion on how you should fly a plane or manage an in-flight emergency?

That's not what he said. He specifically referenced the media - which is agenda driven regardless of who you align with. CNN, Fox News, it doesn't matter. They all have agendas, and he's right to tune them out.

Anson Harris 07-05-2020 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3086217)
if you really think this is a place to get trustworthy medical information on covid treatment, then you are beyond naive. why would you think a bunch of pilots are a better source of information than doctors or public health professionals? would you ask a physician for his opinion on how you should fly a plane or manage an in-flight emergency?

I'm talking about the medical and academic links, articles, studies, etc., that people have shared on here. Most of this never makes the news, so I appreciate this site as an aggregator of that information (from multiple viewpoints, believe it or not).

A lot of folks on here have medical backgrounds, so the constant name-calling and belittling of people's opinions is really tiresome.

Mesabah 07-05-2020 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Anson Harris (Post 3086207)
As sad as this may be, this site is one of my best for staying informed on covid treatment. The regular media is beyond disappointing.

Can you elaborate on what's going on in TX with intubations? My biggest fear (such that it is) about getting covid is that I'll end up in a hospital that doesn't yet understand the role of anti-inflammatory/coagulent treatment and is stuck on the ventilator bandwagon. Why our national dialog isn't more focused on effective treatment and less on partisan nonsense is beyond me.

If you've had your genetic data tested(I have), you can look in the raw data to determine your outcome if you get Covid.

dbrault17 07-06-2020 02:45 AM

I have Covid. Symptoms started as headaches and fevers that wouldnt quit lasting a week straight. Then last Tuesday evening, it all went to hell. The fight to breath was the scariest in my life. No point in trying to describe it casue I cant put into words. I can see how easily this could take out people that are already having other health issues. I fear desperately for my father. My O2 saturation was 85-90% with a top fever 103.8, and it was very persistent.

Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.

It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.

This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.

If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.

DavidSpeaks 07-06-2020 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by dbrault17 (Post 3086757)
I have Covid. Symptoms started as headaches and fevers that wouldnt quit lasting a week straight. Then last Tuesday evening, it all went to hell. The fight to breath was the scariest in my life. No point in trying to describe it casue I cant put into words. I can see how easily this could take out people that are already having other health issues. I fear desperately for my father. My O2 saturation was 85-90% with a top fever 103.8, and it was very persistent.

Conditions worsened Wednesday morning and I was ready for a trip to the ER. My fiance got me into her doctors office. This lady is a cardiothoracic surgeon who closed down her general practice to open a COVID treatment center. They have treated hundreds of Covid patients now. The whole staff even had the damn bug. She told me to turn off the news because hydroxychloroquine was being pulled through the mud and politicized for no other reason than Trump. She assured me it's a safe enough drug to use and is very effective against COVID. So I went home with a prescription of hydroxychloroquine and a Z pack. Cost at walgreens was 9 dollars.

It's been a hell of a week. The waves of chills followed by massive fevers were intense but like I said the worst and scariest was the struggle to breath. As of yesterday (Sunday), I have relief from chills/fevers, that being the first in 2 weeks. I can take full breaths. As I write this I can feel each breath more productive. My O2 is back up consistently to 95%.

This is just my experience, yours may differ. I highly doubt my trajectory last week with no therapy was heading in any positive direction. I followed my doctors prescriptions of hydroxychloroquine and Z pack and I get to sit here thanking my lucky stars. My fiance seems to be coming down with symptoms so she will follow the same protocol. There is still more healing to do but I feel on the right track so far.

If you come down with this nasty thing....well....you do you. Good luck.

Got any proof of said prescription and diagnosis? Should be easy to both black out your sensitive information on your diagnosis paperwork and suggested treatment and upload the screenshots here.

JamesNoBrakes 07-06-2020 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by dbrault17 (Post 3086757)
So I went home with a Z pack.
.

Z-pack is standard for most viral infections, to free up your immune system to fight the virus, as your immune system is constantly fighting bacterial infections.

It's great you are getting better.

tallpilot 07-06-2020 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by DavidSpeaks (Post 3086881)
Got any proof of said prescription and diagnosis? Should be easy to both black out your sensitive information on your diagnosis paperwork and suggested treatment and upload the screenshots here.

Are you suggesting he is lying? He said at the end, you do you. If you only trust pharmaceuticals until their patents expire stick with the new stuff. Me? If I felt like he did I'd try everything except a ventilator.

DavidSpeaks 07-06-2020 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by tallpilot (Post 3086940)
Are you suggesting he is lying?

I have been lurking this place long enough to know not to just trust the information being shared here as legit without proof. It would be simple to provide proof and I am sure he could take two minutes to do so.

andreas500 07-06-2020 02:00 PM

Zinc...
 

Originally Posted by OpMidClimax (Post 3086100)
There have been multiple multivariate studies performed.

If you want to supliment zinc feel free to just use a daily multivitamin

Zinc really has only been proven clinically to aid in marginal testosterone production. The whole zinc anion/cation and viruses has been largely debunked. That's how Zicam came and went and the massive amounts of lawsuits it had to defend. .

As far as azithromycin and covid goes. There is a lot of evidence that a broad spectrum antibiotic during seroconverion of the virus is effective at preventing secondary infection. We really have mixed and unsubstantiated results as an antiviral.

The above is not exactly accurate - zinc availability within cells, and the implications of zinc deficiency, have been demonstrated and (somewhat accepted) well before this chaos of covid began. My interest in zinc levels in the body predate the covid-19 pandemic due to the "anecdotal" personal success of using zinc gluconate at the very first signs of a cold (a coronavirus) and the clear and indisputable personal impact of much shorter and less severe cold symptoms (for me and only for me - thus indisputable by others).

Attached are two references that are of very different levels of detail, focus, and intent for your and any others reading pleasure:

Zn(2+) Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA

How Zinc Can Help with Infections


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