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rickair7777 02-13-2021 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3194735)
Or from a different perspective, even if these were approved for use in children, they’d still be last in priority to get this because, yes, while they MIGHT get it, and it MIGHT even kill them, they have a greater risk from influenza in a typical influenza year. Worldwide, measles is a greater threat for kids.

Another perspective... there may be a desire to vaccinate kids so that union teachers no longer have an excuse to stay home, get paid, and not do their jobs. Zoom schooling pretty clearly has more mental and physical health ramifications for kids than potential covid infection.

Excargodog 02-13-2021 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3194736)
Another perspective... there may be a desire to vaccinate kids so that union teachers no longer have an excuse to stay home, get paid, and not do their jobs. Zoom schooling pretty clearly has more mental and physical health ramifications for kids than potential covid infection.

Getting an IRB to approve vaccine testing on kids to assuage the fears (or remove the excuse) of teachers so that cowardly politicians don’t have to do the job they were elected to do would - I dare say - be an even steeper hill to climb.

It’s not the job of kindergarteners to carry water for feckless politicians.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4631034/

rickair7777 02-13-2021 09:55 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3194737)
It’s not the job of kindergarteners to carry water for feckless politicians.

Kindergartners, unfortunately, are not organized into the massive government unions which are vital political machines.

TransWorld 02-13-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3194736)
Another perspective... there may be a desire to vaccinate kids so that union teachers no longer have an excuse to stay home, get paid, and not do their jobs. Zoom schooling pretty clearly has more mental and physical health ramifications for kids than potential covid infection.

If teachers get vaccinated and children get vaccinated, what will be the reason - strike that, excuse - given as to why students and teachers cannot return to in person classrooms. Inquiring minds want to know.

ugleeual 02-13-2021 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by TransWorld (Post 3194753)
If teachers get vaccinated and children get vaccinated, what will be the reason - strike that, excuse - given as to why students and teachers cannot return to in person classrooms. Inquiring minds want to know.

simply say that the current vaccine(s) doesn’t protect those immunized from a ‘new’ variant of the COVID virus... false innuendos coupled with fear is a powerful tool.

RiddleEagle18 02-13-2021 02:16 PM

Florida has been in school since august.

Zero teacher deaths attributed to a case traced to school. Zero.

Can we stop with the fear porn?


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Excargodog 02-13-2021 07:39 PM


Sanofi CEO Paul Hudson said that a COVID-19 vaccine candidate that the company is developing will not be ready in 2021.

“This vaccine will not be ready this year, but it could be of use at a later stage all the more if the fight against variants was to continue,” Reuters reported Hudson told French newspaper Le Journal du Dimanche.

The CEO gave no other details, according to the news outlet.

Sanofi partnered with U.S.-based company Translate Bio last Juneto developed the vaccine based on mRNA technology. Vaccines from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna — which have both been authorized for emergency use in the U.S. — also use this technology.

Reuters reported that clinical trials of the company's vaccine were expected to start this quarter, and Sanofi said in December that the “earliest potential approval” of the vaccine was the second half of 2021.Sanofi announced in December that interim results from a phase 1/2 clinical trial of a separate vaccine it is developing with U.K.-based GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) showed the candidate produced a low immune response in older adults. The company at the time said that the low immune response could be due to an insufficient concentration of the antigen.

The company plans to begin a phase 2b trial of this vaccine this month, a move that will delay its availability to sometime in the second half of 2021.

The news comes after Sanofi announced in late January that it will help Pfizer and BioNTech produce doses of their vaccine from its facilities in Frankfurt, Germany, beginning this summer.
Embarrassing blow for the EU, especially after their flagging immunization effort.

rickair7777 02-14-2021 06:35 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3194902)
Embarrassing blow for the EU, especially after their flagging immunization effort.

Out of the several hundred vaccines in development, I'd be surprised if more than 15-30 make it to market.

At some point the market will be saturated and ROI for new entrants pretty marginal. Although mutations might create opportunity for new vaccine developments.

TransWorld 02-14-2021 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3194976)
Out of the several hundred vaccines in development, I'd be surprised if more than 15-30 make it to market.

At some point the market will be saturated and ROI for new entrants pretty marginal. Although mutations might create opportunity for new vaccine developments.

Kind of like new fast food restaurants in the neighborhood. Some make it, some do not.

Excargodog 02-14-2021 06:33 PM


JERUSALEM (Reuters) - Israel’s largest healthcare provider on Sunday reported a 94% drop in symptomatic COVID-19 infections among 600,000 people who received two doses of the Pfizer’s vaccine in the country’s biggest study to date.

Health maintenance organization (HMO) Clalit, which covers more than half of all Israelis, said the same group was also 92% less likely to develop severe illness from the virus.

The comparison was against a group of the same size, with matching medical histories, who had not received the vaccine.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idINKBN2AE0Q2


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