"masks are the solution!"
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you’re the same jackoff that posted the conspiracy about Elmhurst hospital murdering patients in queens. You should be embarrassed with yourself.
Did you take your QAnon pledge yet? Do you tell people in real life about your twisted beliefs? Or just hide on the internet because deep down you know it’s depraved. |
huh? what is Qanon? sorry if opposing viewpoints and "possible" facts offends you. I never claimed that either of the videos I posted were factual. I do not know. I do know that there ARe opposing viewpoints to our .gov leaders in the "scientific" community. Like, actual doctors and "experts" who disagree with Fauci and media ordained "experts". Last I checked (AP physics in high school), science doesnt have an agenda. Science considers and analyzes all sources of info! I get it, pilots these days dont get to make many decisions or analyze things... we are trained to blindly follow the QRH, ECAM, FOM, FAR's, etc. "Science" however, is much different from being a pilot.
I wont call you names like jackoff because I dont know you. But seriously, postt a rebuttal instead of an insult. Post a counter argument. Post your facts instead of name calling. Elevate yourself above the typical leftist who blindly follows what CNN says you should do. |
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Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3094914)
Honestly, this is a really uplifting video. I can tell that these guys are never gonna tell a lie. Click this link above ^^. It won't hurt you.
Just like "antifa", youre going to result to violence, insults, and anarchy to get your point across. Debate, reason, and facts are obviously irrelevant to you. God help the poor CA or FO who gets stuck with you on a 4 day... sheesh |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094910)
huh? what is Qanon? sorry if opposing viewpoints and "possible" facts offends you. I never claimed that either of the videos I posted were factual. I do not know. I do know that there ARe opposing viewpoints to our .gov leaders in the "scientific" community. Like, actual doctors and "experts" who disagree with Fauci and media ordained "experts". Last I checked (AP physics in high school), science doesnt have an agenda. Science considers and analyzes all sources of info! I get it, pilots these days dont get to make many decisions or analyze things... we are trained to blindly follow the QRH, ECAM, FOM, FAR's, etc. "Science" however, is much different from being a pilot.
I wont call you names like jackoff because I dont know you. But seriously, postt a rebuttal instead of an insult. Post a counter argument. Post your facts instead of name calling. Elevate yourself above the typical leftist who blindly follows what CNN says you should do. |
Originally Posted by contrails12
(Post 3094937)
you post conspiracy theory YouTube videos that have no bearing on reality. You’re untethered from any semblance of truth. This stuff hurts people in real life. Like the last video that accuses doctors and nurses of murder who are working in insane conditions during a pandemic . It’s like the other jackoffs that hound sandy hook victims parents about it being a hoax. You’re lower than whale **** in the bottom of the ocean.
Or.. bring up Sandy Hook and all the other conspiracy theories. Good job. I bet you agree with defunding the police too. Go attack and deface the federal buildings in Portland, then whine when the DHS and US Marshals arrest you. |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094946)
Again, no rebuttal. No data. No opposing viewpoints. Just name calling and strange comparisons of unrelated events. Please, list some facts. Post a video that contradicts my post. Anything! I am honestly looking for a debate! I want to LEARN!
Or.. bring up Sandy Hook and all the other conspiracy theories. Good job. I bet you agree with defunding the police too. Go attack and deface the federal buildings in Portland, then whine when the DHS and US Marshals arrest you. |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094946)
Again, no rebuttal. No data. No opposing viewpoints. Just name calling and strange comparisons of unrelated events. Please, list some facts. Post a video that contradicts my post. Anything!
Or.. bring up Sandy Hook and all the other conspiracy theories. Good job. I bet you agree with defunding the police too. Go attack and deface the federal buildings in Portland, then whine when the DHS and US Marshals arrest you. hey you know what...I know for a fact you killed JFK. Prove me wrong. Don’t deflect either. |
Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3094948)
You cheering on Trump's secret police says all I need to know about your character.
I live in downtown Seattle and witnessed the riots firsthand. Like, outside my door. I saw the tactics antifa uses. I was at the day 1 protests (as a George Floyd supporter!!!) and I watched the antifa thugs infiltrate the crowd and turn it into a riot. I watched them torch a police car. I was feet away when a rioter stole an AR-15 from a cruiser. I watched them start to smash windows and loot in Westlake Seattle. I saw them throwing glass bottles of **** and fireworks at mostly non-white cops. Im glad you are obviously privileged enough to not live in one of these urban centers, but any sane person here knows the truth. I cant wait to leave... only 10 more months on my lease and I will again be a commuter! |
Originally Posted by contrails12
(Post 3094950)
I don’t even know what’s in the last video you posted. As soon as it opened I could tell it bogus. After the last conspiracy video you posted about Elmhurst hospital I decided not to waste my time. The Elmhurst video is on par with sandy hook conspiracy theories. Which is to say it’s vile and disgusting.
hey you know what...I know for a fact you killed JFK. Prove me wrong. Don’t deflect either. But if you choose to only see one side of an issue, then... good luck finding truth damn! mad respect! I do respect yorre mcrment |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094959)
And that is the problem. You didnt even watch it. I watch all sides and draw a valid conclusion. If you only hear one side, how can you make up your mind? Look, far left and far right are both bad. We have to cut through the bull**** on both ends and the only way to do that is see both arguments and statements of fact.
But if you choose to only see one side of an issue, then... good luck finding truth that’s exactly what I’d expect the person who assonated JFK to say. |
Originally Posted by contrails12
(Post 3094966)
that’s exactly what I’d expect the person who assonated JFK to say.
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094959)
And that is the problem. You didnt even watch it. I watch all sides and draw a valid conclusion. If you only hear one side, how can you make up your mind? Look, far left and far right are both bad. We have to cut through the bull**** on both ends and the only way to do that is see both arguments and statements of fact.
But if you choose to only see one side of an issue, then... good luck finding truth A "valid conclusion", or whatever you perceive what you're conjuring up, doesn't mean it is correct. |
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094973)
And another meme, non response to the facts. Good job! I did LOL though, most countries governments are pretty stupid. As a travel junkie who has visited over 150 countries, I feel my opinion on this matters to some degree. post another meme!!!!
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Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094981)
Ya got me! OMG! You win! posting a simpsons meme! You win! Argument over. Debate over. Science over. Ill wear my mask and gloves in my car now!
also I haven’t seen any proof that you didnt kill jfk |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094973)
And another meme, non response to the facts. Good job! I did LOL though, most countries governments are pretty stupid. As a travel junkie who has visited over 150 countries, I feel my opinion on this matters to some degree. post another meme!!!!
And since no one clicked on my link... someone go click on the link of your video in my reply. I spent a lot of time on it. |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094981)
Ya got me! OMG! You win! posting a simpsons meme! You win! Argument over. Debate over. Science over. Ill wear my mask and gloves in my car now!
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Originally Posted by contrails12
(Post 3094982)
will you also admit that doctors and nurses at Elmhurst hospital weren’t intentionally infecting people with covid and then refusing to resuscitate them as some type of money making scheme?
also I haven’t seen any proof that you didnt kill jfk As for the Elmhurst incident, I have hear opposing info...! please provide!!!! |
Originally Posted by SIUav8er
(Post 3094987)
I was born in 1983. so, yeah I didnt kill jfk😂😂😂😂😂👍👍
As for the Elmhurst incident, I have hear opposing info...! please provide!!!! also the 150 countries visited claim is bogus too |
Did anyone watch the video or did you all just loose your minds at old sui?
The Drs said.....and I paraphrase....'wear your mask...but we just can't proove its effectiveness yet'. They didn't say dont wear a mask. They are taking a scientific approach. Wow. Contrails and wutface pull yourself together. The video wasnt a conpiracy video it was a few Drs that just said quite roghtly that there are no aolid studies out there.....BUT....wear a mask. Anyway....what I'm now doing is ignoring all Wutface posts AND anyone who responds to it. Life is great. |
Already seen it on flights and nothing anyone can do about it.
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/in...e-860fe84e0f52 |
Despite what the media is saying, most Americans are wearing masks, a lot better than Europe at least.
https://i.ibb.co/QFHpv3q/21855.jpg |
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Top health officials have changed their minds about face masks -- but for good reasons
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/healt...nce/index.html This is actually a pretty good article about the mask narrative and how it has evolved since top health officials have learned more, and healthcare workers have more appropriate levels of PPE. IMO staying to not wear a mask because they wanted the good masks for healthcare workers was very inappropriate. I understand the reason, but they should have just told the truth. It’s always better to keep the masses informed, they will respect and trust important information the next time rather than blow off the information as coming from a liar. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 3095110)
Despite what the media is saying, most Americans are wearing masks, a lot better than Europe at least.
https://i.ibb.co/QFHpv3q/21855.jpg |
Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
(Post 3095412)
That’s great news, maybe people are getting the point. In the Midwest where I live only approximately 20% are wearing masks as an observation, however more businesses are getting on the bandwagon and hopefully next week those numbers increase. Many local stores and businesses in the area are advising of mandatory mask usage, customers not in compliance will be asked to leave.
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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
(Post 3095412)
That’s great news, maybe people are getting the point. In the Midwest where I live only approximately 20% are wearing masks as an observation, however more businesses are getting on the bandwagon and hopefully next week those numbers increase. Many local stores and businesses in the area are advising of mandatory mask usage, customers not in compliance will be asked to leave.
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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
(Post 3095408)
IMO staying to not wear a mask because they wanted the good masks for healthcare workers was very inappropriate. I understand the reason, but they should have just told the truth. It’s always better to keep the masses informed, they will respect and trust important information the next time rather than blow off the information as coming from a liar.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 3095537)
Yup, lost a lot of credibility by doing a 180. That combined with honest confusion over mask benefits due to the flip-flop set mask compliance back a long ways.
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Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3095540)
Ya'll sound like a bunch of spurned lovers. You should get over yourselves.
What a bunch of naifs... |
Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3095540)
Ya'll sound like a bunch of spurned lovers. You should get over yourselves.
In a previous post I had put up an article albeit a CNN piece about mask usage and how the narrative has changed. It was BS how it played out, and there is no defense or excuse for the communication period... It is these types of actions and communication failures that have us divided, although there is plenty politically dividing the country as well... this was a failure. I would rather have someone admit fault, make changes when warranted, and keep focus on winning the fight with the virus right now. WutFace.. in a previous post I was making the case for my acceptance of “masks are the solution” but when Rickair777 commented on part of my post you took it wrongly IMO. It was a reasonable response. His comment did acknowledge the damage done by the changing narrative, he didn’t comment on the article, but that’s ok. He doesn’t have to. When you make posts like the above you lose credibility. I actually agree with some of what you say, some of what many of us here have to say, but when you bicker like this it’s kinda *****y. Sorry for being an ass to you. Your posts do spurn thought, and a back and forth discussion and that’s a good thing. |
Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
(Post 3095791)
In a previous post I had put up an article albeit a CNN piece about mask usage and how the narrative has changed. It was BS how it played out, and there is no defense or excuse for the communication period... It is these types of actions and communication failures that have us divided, although there is plenty politically dividing the country as well... this was a failure. I would rather have someone admit fault, make changes when warranted, and keep focus on winning the fight with the virus right now.
WutFace.. in a previous post I was making the case for my acceptance of “masks are the solution” but when Rickair777 commented on part of my post you took it wrongly IMO. It was a reasonable response. His comment did acknowledge the damage done by the changing narrative, he didn’t comment on the article, but that’s ok. He doesn’t have to. When you make posts like the above you lose credibility. I actually agree with some of what you say, some of what many of us here have to say, but when you bicker like this it’s kinda *****y. Sorry for being an ass to you. Your posts do spurn thought, and a back and forth discussion and that’s a good thing. Everyone who claims to be outraged by the mixed messaging regarding masks by the White House and CDC is using it as a reason to discount CDC guidelines that they personally do not agree with. It's purely political posturing. I've seen better actors at a community theater. Anyone with an IQ greater than 80 could have seen what was happening in March. The messaging was clear. Don't use masks. Donate your masks to medical personnel. Remember that? They wanted you to donate any N95 masks in your possession to help the shortage. If masks were worthless, then why did they want you to donate them? Only now do these jokers come back with their faux outrage. "I can't believe that they lied to me!" with his wrist to his forehead. Like a southern debutante who's been spurned by her beau. It's all theater to back up their position that they do not agree with CDC guidelines. And it's worthy of mockery. |
There was no shortage of cloth and bandanas in March. Yet here we are, spreading the good word that cloth masks and bandanas are going to end the pandemic.
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Originally Posted by Flyfalcons
(Post 3095926)
There was no shortage of cloth and bandanas in March. Yet here we are, spreading the good word that cloth masks and bandanas are going to end the pandemic.
https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america |
Originally Posted by WutFace
(Post 3095900)
I appreciate your candor. And I admit my response is a little snarky. I'll explain why.
Everyone who claims to be outraged by the mixed messaging regarding masks by the White House and CDC is using it as a reason to discount CDC guidelines that they personally do not agree with. It's purely political posturing. I've seen better actors at a community theater. Anyone with an IQ greater than 80 could have seen what was happening in March. The messaging was clear. Don't use masks. Donate your masks to medical personnel. Remember that? They wanted you to donate any N95 masks in your possession to help the shortage. If masks were worthless, then why did they want you to donate them? Only now do these jokers come back with their faux outrage. "I can't believe that they lied to me!" with his wrist to his forehead. Like a southern debutante who's been spurned by her beau. It's all theater to back up their position that they do not agree with CDC guidelines. And it's worthy of mockery. It is entirely possible to support mask use as an intervention strategy (even while accepting it is not going to be 100% effective) while castigating whatever idiot compromised the credibility of the CDC by lying initially. Those are not mutually exclusive opinions to hold. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and no field in medicine requires credibility with the public to do their job more than the field of public health. Whoever made the decision to lie shot themselves (and public health in general) in the foot. It was a STUPID thing to do. |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3096092)
Horse$hit! I ABSOLUTELY believed they lied to me and knew it at the time. What I have been saying is that it was a dumb$hit move on their part and BAD POLICY. You, on the other hand, tried to justify it to me because idiots were buying out Costco and hoarding mountains of toilet paper.
It is entirely possible to support mask use as an intervention strategy (even while accepting it is not going to be 100% effective) while castigating whatever idiot compromised the credibility of the CDC by lying initially. Those are not mutually exclusive opinions to hold. You never get a second chance to make a first impression and no field in medicine requires credibility with the public to do their job more than the field of public health. Whoever made the decision to lie shot themselves (and public health in general) in the foot. It was a STUPID thing to do. |
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