Originally Posted by ToddChavez (Post 3102344)

Yeah you are probably the simpleton who thinks the UK and the USA has the same population.

The UK has the 3rd highest death ratio in the world.

The US is 10th.


When it comes to testing, the US is #1

the UK is #5

Even Brazil and Russia is beating the UK in testing.

Originally Posted by ToddChavez (Post 3102301)

Thank you. You would have to be a complete idiot to think this whole thing wasn't politically driven at this point.

Yes the virus is real and people are dying. But you have real doctors with real experience and real qualifications and degrees.... and they are outright BANNED from the discussion. If this was really about saving lives, would we not at least want to have that discussion of a treatment? Banning their scientific opinions is fascist to the highest level.

And let's discuss the reporting methods. The death counts.... they are suspicious to say the least. The media should be having a hayday over how the deaths are reported..... but whatever makes orange man look bad.

Call me what you want.... a Trump loving whatever..... but can you at least dispute one of my points above with facts?

Oh and all you lefty democrat lovers.... keep in mind.... Cuomo and Deblasio are the ones who killed thousands by putting COVID patients in nursing homes..... (yes old people, who are high risk, who reside in nursing homes) with their ridiculous policies.

So again, explain why Trump = bad and New York = shining example of COVID handling.

Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 3102347)

*cracks knuckles*
What metric do you want? I can point to any and say where you're wrong. We currently are or shortly will be one of the worst in the world regarding COVID. Let me list them for you.

• #1 in new daily cases
• #1 in total cases
• #1 in new daily deaths
• #1 in total deaths
• #1 in total cases per capita (in countries greater than 20 million)
• #6 in total deaths per capita (in countries greater than 20 million)

That last one you want to point to, right? Give it time. We just surpassed France this week for the 6th spot. Every other country is flat in new cases and we're on fire. By year's end we will be near first in EVERY category.

“We’re going to win so much that you’re going to be sick and tired. You’re going to say, ‘Please, please, Mr. President, we’re sick and tired of winning. Please let us have at least one loss. It’s no longer exciting to win.’ And I’m going to say, ‘No way, we’re going to keep winning, and I don’t care if you like it or not.’” - Donald Trump

Promises made, promises kept, right?

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3102406)

A little hard to believe the stats when every death is contributed to covid no matter the cause of death if patient has covid. 90 year old has heart failure after having years of heart issues... rack up another covid death!

Originally Posted by jumppilot (Post 3102420)

I’m genuinely curious how often that occurs. Sure, the 90 year old had COVID when they died, but a regular flu or cold virus may have also been the straw that broke the camels back.

Also, how are positive tests counted? Let’s say you’re a health care worker and need a negative test to go back to work. You get tested every day for 7 days looking for that negative test. Is that counted as 7 positive tests in the total, even though it’s the same person?

Honest questions I’ve had.

Originally Posted by ToddChavez (Post 3102341)

Chill.

First off, I already told you the virus is real and people are dying. That is undisputed.

Second, cite a source where CUOMO or DEBLASIO has said the nursing home mistake was a mistake and they owned it. Becuase they do, in fact, own it.

Originally Posted by ToddChavez (Post 3102341)

Next, I don't know WTF is going on in Europe and frankly, all I know is they have worse numbers than us. Less testing, higher death and hospitalization rates and so on. So you using Europe against my points is not helping your case.

Originally Posted by ToddChavez (Post 3102341)

I am sorry but what is wrong with you mentally? Are you so lefty deranged you cannot see that putting the most vulnerable elderly people in the same building as Corona patients is utterly stupid? I mean this is a new level of DUMB. Who could not see that coming?

I want to know your answers. Why would that even be suggested?

Or maybe it was preplanned?

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 3102406)

A little hard to believe the stats when every death is contributed to covid no matter the cause of death if patient has covid. 90 year old has heart failure after having years of heart issues... rack up another covid death!

Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 3102480)

Why anyone is arguing politics about a virus is perplexing.