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Excargodog 08-17-2021 06:57 PM

Boosters…
 

The World Health Organization (WHO) has called for a halt to booster shots in wealthy nations, at least through September, as poor countries struggle with access to vaccines.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus earlier this month said richer countries have administered about 100 doses of coronavirus vaccines for every 100 people on average, while low-income countries — hampered by short supplies — have provided only about 1.5 doses per 100 people.

"We cannot, and we should not, accept countries that have already used most of the global supply of vaccines using even more of it, while the world’s most vulnerable people remain unprotected," Tedros said
filler :eek:

Excargodog 08-17-2021 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Wingedbeast (Post 3281034)
They start to harm your immune system the more you take.

I still think I’ll keep my tetanus shots up to date just the same.

https://youtu.be/CwMJxB36yck

dera 08-17-2021 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by Wingedbeast (Post 3281034)
They start to harm your immune system the more you take.

Science, right here.

not. You just made sh*t up.

rickair7777 08-18-2021 07:27 AM

Good thing the WHO doesn't have jurisdiction here.

BoilerUP 08-18-2021 08:06 AM

I struggle with the logic of boosters (except for the immunocompromised and those 70+ years old) AT THIS TIME, especially when there's probably a couple billion people around the world that would like to be vaccinated but don't yet have that option.

Boosters are a better use for vaccine that has already been acquired and would otherwise expire/be discarded, but short of that and given how most breakthrough infections are extremely mild (other than in the aforementioned immunocompromised and 70YO+) doesn't seem like the most prudent use of scarce resources.

duck of death 08-18-2021 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Wingedbeast (Post 3281034)
They start to harm your immune system the more you take.


[citation needed]

rickair7777 08-18-2021 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 3281255)
I struggle with the logic of boosters (except for the immunocompromised and those 70+ years old) AT THIS TIME, especially when there's probably a couple billion people around the world that would like to be vaccinated but don't yet have that option.

Boosters are a better use for vaccine that has already been acquired and would otherwise expire/be discarded, but short of that and given how most breakthrough infections are extremely mild (other than in the aforementioned immunocompromised and 70YO+) doesn't seem like the most prudent use of scarce resources.

I haven't seen any definitive data that we need boosters this soon. Yeah, yeah the mfgs observed some drop off in lab titers but that doesn't automatically correlate to real world efficacy... and mfgs have an incentive to encourage boosters.

Excargodog 08-18-2021 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3281404)
I haven't seen any definitive data that we need boosters this soon. Yeah, yeah the mfgs observed some drop off in lab titers but that doesn't automatically correlate to real world efficacy... and mfgs have an incentive to encourage boosters.

I think the issue is between relatively short-lived (6-9 months) circulating neutralizing antibodies, which if high enough will decrease the likelihood of someone getting infected and activated T-cells which are longer lasting and will decrease the likelihood of you having serious consequences if they do get infected.

For those still believing it is possible to eliminate circulating COVID 19 from the environment (and those selling booster shots) the desired outcome is frequent booster shots.

For those believing that COVID-19 will ultimately circulate like the other four common human corona viruses that pretty much ch just cause colds in those previously exposed to them, the objective is to just get everyone with activated t-cells, one way or another and get on with life, well they see things a little different.

jtbost 08-18-2021 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3281404)
I haven't seen any definitive data that we need boosters this soon. Yeah, yeah the mfgs observed some drop off in lab titers but that doesn't automatically correlate to real world efficacy... and mfgs have an incentive to encourage boosters.

it is quite shocking that these various organizations haven’t consulted with you? Not sure why they chose not to..


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