You can't virtue "signal" without a signal. How the hell would I know if somebody got the vaccine or not?

Unmasked. Unvaxxed. Unafraid?

It's on your pickup truck.

The irony of you calling someone else afraid is tangible.

Almost all federal covid response at this point, including and especially the vaccine mandate, is based on nothing but panic and fear. Current mortality rate for covid per worldinfometers.com, as just a simple ratio of deaths vs recovered, is 2%. Adjust that number based on known severe covid risk factors (rule out the really old and morbidly obese), and the risk for anyone that is under 65 and reasonably heathy is practically zero. Add in to all that the 24/7 media articles that gleefully point out that the only people currently dying of covid are the unvaxxed, I'm left wondering why? Why do I need to get the vaccine? Who am I saving, other than the other people who have also not chosen to get the vaccine, and have thus decided their own fate? Especially when I consider that I have HAD covid, and (according to almighty science) I have more robust protection and spread limitation from covid now than anyone that just got the vaccine alone?

The government would save way more lives mandating that everyone reduce their BMI to a healthy level. Why don't they mandate that instead? Surely it isn't because Pfizer wouldn't make billions in government mandated profit that way. No, it must just be because the government and these companies don't want to appear as fat-phobes.

And now we have seen that the efficacy of these vaccines degrades pretty drastically after 6 months, hence the boosters. So how long will it be before just having the vaccine isn't enough? Am I supposed to just get a booster every 6 months forever just so I can keep a job? And at what point will we finally say that it isn't necessary any more? Many of the almighty scientists have already said that covid is now endemic and zero covid is a pipe dream at this point. So will it be 2045 and I get fired because I didn't get my Covid-45 booster, and a bunch of other non-boosted people died?

So lets mandate those vaccines. Let's force everyone to shell out tax dollars to these pharma companies and take a vaccine with as-yet-unknown far reaching consequences because YOU are afraid of dying from a virus that has virtually zero chance of killing you. "People might kill me in my car, so no one is allowed to drive!!! If you dare to be one of those 'drivers' you're just a science-denier who wants grandma to die".

And before you get all self-righteous about "making the right choice" and "doing your part to save those at risk", you do not care about some 80-year-old in a nursing home that you've never met more than you care about yourself, so don't even try to convince me.

Great news! Now J&J has a booster just two months after the first shot for 18 & up. These clowns in DC have lost ALL trust relating to these vaccines. They call for a booster then do the research & pick and choose the science that fits.

I am trying to understand your viewpoint. Your fear is based on something going wrong with the vaccine for yourself, up to and including a disability, losing your license, or death. And now you want me to pay for you in case things go south. Got a honest question for you. How can you possibly fear that remote chance, while you stay unvaccinated and open yourself to being a Covid longhauler or a Covid death (BOTH of which are far more likely to occur than your fear of a Covid jab going wrong).

ahhhh soooo many assumptions…. So little time. Supposed there was one or more scientific studies that showed that those who had Covid and had antibodies to prove it has at least as much if not more resistance to the virus and any of its variants? Imagine if you could go take a quantitative test that proved you not only had Covid, but additionally could score your amount of antibody protection compared to day, someone with at least two Moderna vax shots? And imagine that this person, had shown zero symptoms when they were diagnosed with what was most likely the Delta variant?

So maybe this person likes their chances with quantitative natural antibodies better than the vaccine because it turns out if they don’t take the vax and crazy variant Z comes along…. They’ll accept that responsibility. But, if they take the vax and, god forbid, there’s a problem now or in the future, they can’t hold anybody who forced their getting accountable. That’s all called individual risk assessment.

I know what my quantitative antibodies are against Covid because I went and took the test. Just happens to be off the damn chart. It’s been a few months but gonna go do another one beginning of November just to see if it’s dropped. Out of curiosity, do YOU have any idea where YOUR antibody load is?

Again…. For the umpteenth time…. Why did pharm co’s require and the government grant immunity from liability if there’s virtually no cause for concern?

I just want someone to take some Damn responsibility the same way we do every time we buckle up and say, “I’m gonna get ya there safe.” For the love, is that too much to ask? Apparently for some it is.

We pilots should all know the answer to that without asking... ambulance chasers can stack a jury with stupid people (excuse me, I meant to say "peers") who they can then BS with technobabble and dazzle with hysteria. The ORIGINAL anti-vaxx propaganda was written by a shill who was paid by attorneys to drum up anti-vaxx sentiment to grease the rails of their lawsuit business.

Unfortunately a reputable journal mistakenly published that piece and by the time they realized they'd been played and retracted, the damage was done.

The government indemnifies vaccine makers for public health reasons... because otherwise they'd be run out of the business by frivolous lawsuits. Then there wouldn't be any vaccines unless the gov made them.

But like I said, you should know that. Why? Look in your own backyard... the general aviation manufacturers essentially shutdown low-end production for a number of years due to unrestrained losses from lawsuits. Same business model for the lawyers: ignorant jurors, lots of techno-babble, spiced with hysteria and jackpot! Jury pays out every time.

Same era as the vaccine indemnity thing too... an era that was a renaissance for plaintiff's law. Solution was the same too... fed granted some indemnity to get the airframers to start making GA planes again. But even today, about 1/3 of the price of a new GA plane goes to a war chest for lawsuits. In case you were wondering why a new 172 costs $450K.

Ok, then, if you’re going to indemnify them on Covid, why wouldn’t you just let them off the hook for any drug going forward?

I think that is what is missing - the Covid vaccines are treated differently than most every other one before…

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile..../idUSKBN25H1E8

https://www.vaccineinjurylawproject....asures-program

Basically a word jumble of a nothing burger. You are just making up the things going wrong in long term for the vaccine. As for the antibody test for those already infected, here's the thing. The anti-vax crowd is heavily politicized (and to be fair, BOTH sides did it last year). There is no way the anti-vax side is going to subject themselves to a monthly blood test to show levels of antibodies, nor are they going to take weekly Covid tests on a continuing basis into the future. The same don't tread on me mentality will apply.

Take the jab, you'll be fine. :)