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chirrut 11-24-2021 12:26 PM

Time to remind everyone who really is spreading the misinformation. Straight from the very mouths who have moved the goal posts since March 2020.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1461750873445568515

When did Gates...I mean, "Dr." Gates.... get his medical degree?

sf340b 11-24-2021 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by chirrut (Post 3326866)
Time to remind everyone who really is spreading the misinformation. Straight from the very mouths who have moved the goal posts since March 2020.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1461750873445568515

When did Gates...I mean, "Dr." Gates.... get his medical degree?

So if your not dead yet you need moar shots...?

rickair7777 11-24-2021 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by chirrut (Post 3326866)
Time to remind everyone who really is spreading the misinformation. Straight from the very mouths who have moved the goal posts since March 2020.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1461750873445568515

When did Gates...I mean, "Dr." Gates.... get his medical degree?

Well, what they said was true before Delta. I assume those sound bites were all before mid-summer.

Mesabah 11-24-2021 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3326898)
Well, what they said was true before Delta. I assume those sound bites were all before mid-summer.

The RBD is conserved across variants, so far, the Delta difference is simply increased binding probability. The vaccines failed because the antibody levels are both not high enough, and of short duration. Realistically, where Covid is going, it will require many many shots per year to keep antibody levels, which migrate to the respiratory system, high enough for neutralization.

Tfork 11-24-2021 06:54 PM

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Here's some interesting data:

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination

https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/u...ntry=~All+ages

Mesabah 11-25-2021 01:22 AM


Originally Posted by Tfork (Post 3326969)

The issue with data like this, is it is comparing people who died within 60 days of a positive PCR test, to people who died of a laboratory confirmed, breakthrough case of Covid. No where in the data sets does it list the number of people excluded from the totals.

Tfork 11-25-2021 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3327013)
The issue with data like this, is it is comparing people who died within 60 days of a positive PCR test, to people who died of a laboratory confirmed, breakthrough case of Covid. No where in the data sets does it list the number of people excluded from the totals.

When you die from COVID, wouldn't you be in a hospital where they would do such tests? There may be a few isolated cases where this isn't true but the vast majority are tested.

Mesabah 11-25-2021 07:35 AM


Originally Posted by Tfork (Post 3327098)
When you die from COVID, wouldn't you be in a hospital where they would do such tests?

Actually, no they don't. Covid statistics are horrendous, you can't draw any conclusions from them.

Tfork 11-25-2021 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 3327102)
Actually, no they don't. Covid statistics are horrendous, you can't draw any conclusions from them.

Please post a link to that truth.

Mesabah 11-26-2021 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tfork (Post 3327291)
Please post a link to that truth.

You already posted the link, read the methodology. The state compares death
certificates to vaccine databases. The system assumes any positive pcr test within 60 days of death is unvaccinated, unless linked to a vaccination record. If a fully vaccinated death is found, it is then investigated for truth using hospital records. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination


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