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mispoken 03-03-2017 07:43 AM

Monthly time data in icrew
 
If I have vacation this month and the pay statement shows 59:12 credit, this must not be reflecting the vacation time? Is 59:12 the credit for the reserve days worked and then the 19:30 vacation credit will be added when the month closes?

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2312844)
If I have vacation this month and the pay statement shows 59:12 credit, this must not be reflecting the vacation time? Is 59:12 the credit for the reserve days worked and then the 19:30 vacation credit will be added when the month closes?

Vacation is "Pay no Credit."

Check out your Mar Timecard in iCrew under Pay/Hours --> Timecard. It will all make sense.

The easiest way to estimate your pay hours is to look at the "CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S PAY" and add in any QCQ (Distributed Training) pay towards the bottom. Also add in any G/S or IA pay, if applicable.

mispoken 03-03-2017 08:22 AM

That makes more sense, you're right.

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 78:42

Which presents me with a new question, since it says "REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00" Does that mean if I pick up any G/S (haha) this month then it'll be paid at 200%?

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2312880)
That makes more sense, you're right.

CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 78:42

Which presents me with a new question, since it says "REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00" Does that mean if I pick up any G/S (haha) this month then it'll be paid at 200%?

G/S's on RES go above your RES guarantee (78:42) at straight pay, with PB days.

mispoken 03-03-2017 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2312911)
G/S's on RES go above your RES guarantee (78:42) at straight pay, with PB days.

And say I actually fly up to the G/S trigger (say I fly 75 hours this month), then at that point any G/S will go at 200%? Sorry, I'm sure this has been discussed time and time again on the boards....

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2312933)
And say I actually fly up to the G/S trigger (say I fly 75 hours this month), then at that point any G/S will go at 200%? Sorry, I'm sure this has been discussed time and time again on the boards....

If you're on RES, never. If you're a lineholder, at the G/S trigger. But you can fly a G/S at the beginning of the month it will still be x2 as long as you eventually get to the trigger.

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2312933)
And say I actually fly up to the G/S trigger (say I fly 75 hours this month), then at that point any G/S will go at 200%? Sorry, I'm sure this has been discussed time and time again on the boards....

As Goggles said, if you are on reserve it is pay above the guarantee and payback days with one caveat......

Say you fly to the reserve guarantee of 75 hours and are done with the month on the 25th with 75.01 hours and are supposed to be on call the last 5 days of the month. Scheduling cannot assign you any more flying but you can still greenslip and get single pay added to your 75.01. The problem is.............you do NOT get payback days in this situation.

Denny

mispoken 03-03-2017 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2313114)
As Goggles said, if you are on reserve it is pay above the guarantee and payback days with one caveat......

Say you fly to the reserve guarantee of 75 hours and are done with the month on the 25th with 75.01 hours and are supposed to be on call the last 5 days of the month. Scheduling cannot assign you any more flying but you can still greenslip and get single pay added to your 75.01. The problem is.............you do NOT get payback days in this situation.

Denny

That is excellent info to know, so often times if you want to reap the best of both worlds, time and days off, going above the reserve guarantee isn't worth it unless all you want is the money?

If I do rolling thunder and say I fly 75 hours, I should be getting 150 hours of credit, no?

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313135)
That is excellent info to know, so often times if you want to reap the best of both worlds, time and days off, going above the reserve guarantee isn't worth it unless all you want is the money?

If I do rolling thunder and say I fly 75 hours, I should be getting 150 hours of credit, no?

First question: Yes

Second question: As long as the reserve guarantee is 75 hours and you fly the 75 GS hours on scheduled days off.........Yes and you get your days off back.

Denny

iaflyer 03-03-2017 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2313114)
Say you fly to the reserve guarantee of 75 hours and are done with the month on the 25th with 75.01 hours and are supposed to be on call the last 5 days of the month. Scheduling cannot assign you any more flying but you can still greenslip and get single pay added to your 75.01. The problem is.............you do NOT get payback days in this situation.

But wouldn't this just be a Yellow slip? You're not flying on your days off, just your days on. You're just volunteering to fly above the reserve guarantee.

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2313114)
Say you fly to the reserve guarantee of 75 hours and are done with the month on the 25th with 75.01 hours and are supposed to be on call the last 5 days of the month. Scheduling cannot assign you any more flying but you can still greenslip and get single pay added to your 75.01. The problem is.............you do NOT get payback days in this situation.

Denny

Heck, even I didn't know that. You're certain of this? Is it because they're technically not X-days?

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 2313153)
But wouldn't this just be a Yellow slip? You're not flying on your days off, just your days on. You're just volunteering to fly above the reserve guarantee.

Essentially, yes it is, but you can also get it on a reserve green slip. You just won't get any payback days.

Denny

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2313161)
Heck, even I didn't know that. You're certain of this? Is it because they're technically not X-days?

As certain as I can be. Call the union or scheduling to double check. Correct. They are STILL reserve on call days...........you just cannot be called.

Denny

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2313168)
As certain as I can be. Call the union or scheduling to double check. Correct. They are STILL reserve on call days...........you just cannot be called.

Denny

In that situation you'd be better off Yellow Slipping since the end result is the same but you'd make yourself more likely to be awarded the trip.

mispoken 03-03-2017 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2313171)
In that situation you'd be better off Yellow Slipping since the end result is the same but you'd make yourself more likely to be awarded the trip.

But it would only be for straight pay and no PB day, so I don't see any benefit in doing it except if you're after some extra scratch. Or am I missing something there?

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313175)
But it would only be for straight pay and no PB day, so I don't see any benefit in doing it except if you're after some extra scratch. Or am I missing something there?

Denny's take is correct. I just checked the PWA (23U) -- No PayPack Days unless actual X-days are interrupted.

You get paid the same (straight pay above guarantee) with no pay back days -- it wouldn't make a difference financially whether you GS'ed or YS'ed.

However, you are more likely to get a YS than a GS (trips are covered using Yellow Slips -- if available -- before Green Slips. Ref 23N and O. The Coverage Ladder.)

marcal 03-03-2017 05:20 PM

Are you sure you can yellow slip when you are FULL on reserve? I thought you couldn't. I've gotten a GS when I was full and learned the hard way that there were no PB days.

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2313171)
In that situation you'd be better off Yellow Slipping since the end result is the same but you'd make yourself more likely to be awarded the trip.

My whole point was to be aware that you will not get the PB days or double pay if you greenslip in the situation I described. A lot of pilots are unaware of this little gem.

Denny

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313175)
But it would only be for straight pay and no PB day, so I don't see any benefit in doing it except if you're after some extra scratch. Or am I missing something there?

No, you are not missing anything. If I'm going to work 20+ days in a month, I don't want it all at straight pay....

Denny

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2313192)
Are you sure you can yellow slip when you are FULL on reserve? I thought you couldn't. I've gotten a GS when I was full and learned the hard way that there were no PB days.

I'm not sure. The Coverage Ladder only mentions Yellow Slips interrupting X-days, not Yellow Slips once RES FULL.

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 2313192)
Are you sure you can yellow slip when you are FULL on reserve? I thought you couldn't. I've gotten a GS when I was full and learned the hard way that there were no PB days.

I dont know. I've never tried...

Denny

mispoken 03-03-2017 05:39 PM

So you said if you're on reserve they can't call you if you're full, but you can YS or GS and get that at 100% pay and no PB days. What if I'm off the last 5 days as X Days? Say I get a 5 day GS on the last 5 days of the month that were X days how am I paid and what about PB days at that point? Same as regular GS rules?

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313207)
So you said if you're on reserve they can't call you if you're full, but you can YS or GS and get that at 100% pay and no PB days. What if I'm off the last 5 days as X Days? Say I get a 5 day GS on the last 5 days of the month that were X days how am I paid and what about PB days at that point? Same as regular GS rules?

You would get 1x pay above your guarantee and since X-days were interrupted you would get PB days (which would go into a bank.) 23U1b.

mispoken 03-03-2017 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2313221)
You would get 1x pay above your guarantee and since X-days were interrupted you would get PB days (which would go into a bank.) 23U1b.

I think I got it! Now what is the best way to bid this for the month to get all X days at the beginning of the month? Do you start with "prefer off" say April 1-14 "all or nothing"?

GogglesPisano 03-03-2017 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313228)
I think I got it! Now what is the best way to bid this for the month to get all X days at the beginning of the month? Do you start with "prefer off" say April 1-14 "all or nothing"?

Prefer Off "LIST OF DATES." Start at the 30th and keep clicking until you get to the 15th or thereabouts.

mispoken 03-03-2017 06:21 PM

Dont I want to front load my days off to the beginning of the month to do rolling thunder appropriately? So Prefer off list of dates starting at the 14th and go backwards? Is it important to list the dates backwards like that from the 14th to the 1st?

Denny Crane 03-03-2017 10:37 PM

Here is how I did it when my category was undermanned. With 13 X days I would bid the first 9/10 days off and then the last 3/4 days off. If I didn't get something in the beginning to start the roll, at least I had a chance at the end of the month. All my 13 days off would be in a row. They just started 4 days before the month ended. That way I could take advantage of any carry over trips that popped up.

Denny

GogglesPisano 03-04-2017 07:15 AM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2313251)
Dont I want to front load my days off to the beginning of the month to do rolling thunder appropriately? So Prefer off list of dates starting at the 14th and go backwards? Is it important to list the dates backwards like that from the 14th to the 1st?

I'm no Thunder expert. But that would be correct. First half of the month off.

In 10 years I've never Rolled. But I've never been senior in my seat either.

mispoken 03-04-2017 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2313517)
I'm no Thunder expert. But that would be correct. First half of the month off.

In 10 years I've never Rolled. But I've never been senior in my seat either.

Have you tried? That's my concern too. Very junior reserve holder, but from reading these boards sounds like the ER staffing will be problematic for the company this summer.....

Denny Crane 03-04-2017 10:13 AM

I'm super junior in my category...........and in a category that's extremely short...........it works!:)

Denny


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