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Pain 04-16-2017 12:53 PM

Delta OAL international jumpseat?
 
Did Delta stop allowing other airline pilots jump seating internationally. I mean with an open seat in the back. A ticket agent in JFK told me that over the holidays. Our js guy says they do. Just wondering if any of you guys know the official answer. The time they told me that I had to cab to EWR and catch UAL.

Thanks in advance.

sailingfun 04-16-2017 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by Pain (Post 2344489)
Did Delta stop allowing other airline pilots jump seating internationally. I mean with an open seat in the back. A ticket agent in JFK told me that over the holidays. Our js guy says they do. Just wondering if any of you guys know the official answer. The time they told me that I had to cab to EWR and catch UAL.

Thanks in advance.

No changes. You need to be checked in or have a listing 74 minutes prior for TSA purposes. You also need to pay any customs and immigration fees at the ticket counter. You can't walk up to the departure gate.

Pain 04-16-2017 07:50 PM

Thanks. Must a have been a new ticket agent. Or they just weren't in the mood. I always check in at the ticket counter when overseas jumping.

Timbo 04-17-2017 01:51 AM

I just brought two Jet Blue pilots back to JFK from Tel Aviv last Friday, one of them even got the last business class seat. I think you got a rogue agent.

iceman49 04-17-2017 06:13 AM

Thought it was 90 minutes before departure for check in.

IDIOTPILOT 04-17-2017 07:54 AM

I've had some say the computer shows not Jumpseat eligible, which is true for the physical Jumpseat. I've had to explain from that.

freezingflyboy 04-18-2017 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by IDIOTPILOT (Post 2344882)
I've had some say the computer shows not Jumpseat eligible, which is true for the physical Jumpseat. I've had to explain from that.

Correct. Some agents take that literally but it is referring to the actual cockpit jumpseat. I've had this pop up with OAL jumpseaters the most at some of the outstations (RDU, PIT, PHL). If you get a chance to talk with the crew we can usually sort out a rogue/misinformed agent. It seems to be relatively simple to trick the computer into thinking you're a standard NRSA and flowing you into a cabin seat. Higher rates of success if you can get a red coat/supervisor involved.

GogglesPisano 04-18-2017 06:57 AM

75 minutes for an international jumpseat reservation/check-in.
60 minutes for an international non rev reservation.

idunno 04-11-2022 12:02 PM

Sorry to revive a dead thread.
Can anyone recommend the best way to do this as an OAL requesting a jumpseat out of Atlanta? Special service counter outside security? Or how should I do this- trying to get to CDG. Thanks in advance!

CBreezy 04-11-2022 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by idunno (Post 3404486)
Sorry to revive a dead thread.
Can anyone recommend the best way to do this as an OAL requesting a jumpseat out of Atlanta? Special service counter outside security? Or how should I do this- trying to get to CDG. Thanks in advance!

Refer to your JS guide via your union. Discussing policies and procedures of JS is strictly forbidden on here

idunno 04-11-2022 01:48 PM

It actually specifically says it *is* permitted as OAL international pilots can't even jumpseat. Hence why I read the rules in advance. The boilerplate stuff really isn't very useful in this case. I'm effectively asking about standby lists at this point.

CBreezy 04-11-2022 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by idunno (Post 3404554)
It actually specifically says it *is* permitted as OAL international pilots can't even jumpseat. I'm effectively asking about standby lists at this point. Thanks for the help though. APF always delivers👌

So then you already have your answer. Thanks

idunno 04-11-2022 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3404558)
So then you already have your answer. Thanks

Weird to not understand using a jumpseat agreement for cabin seats

CBreezy 04-11-2022 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by idunno (Post 3404559)
Weird to not understand using a jumpseat agreement for cabin seats

I understand it. JS policy and procedures are not permitted to be discussed here, regardless of if it's cabin or cockpit

Margaritaville 04-12-2022 07:02 PM

Jeez. This isn't a hard question nor some SSI stuff. He just needs to know who to talk to!

Talk to the customer service counter either inside or outside of security. You should already know "how" to sign up for a jumpseat. One caveat on int'l is you need to sign up >90 minutes in advance. And yes you're not allowed in the cockpit so really it's just non-revving OAL.

Reassigned4 04-12-2022 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Margaritaville (Post 3405286)
Jeez. This isn't a hard question nor some SSI stuff. He just needs to know who to talk to!

Talk to the customer service counter either inside or outside of security. You should already know "how" to sign up for a jumpseat. One caveat on int'l is you need to sign up >90 minutes in advance. And yes you're not allowed in the cockpit so really it's just non-revving OAL.

Seriously. People act like we’re give cockpit door codes here or something. The official ALPA website literally spells out every detail of the cockpit jumpseating procedure for the whole world to see. Don’t tell the bad guys though….

tripled 04-12-2022 08:46 PM

Thanks for helping the guy out rather than berating him

cornbeef007 04-13-2022 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3404575)
I understand it. JS policy and procedures are not permitted to be discussed here, regardless of if it's cabin or cockpit

You are correct, so you get a star for the day. Along with the star however, you get a tool of the day award.

CBreezy 04-13-2022 03:46 AM


Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3405380)
You are correct, so you get a star for the day. Along with the star however, you get a tool of the day award.

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I've been banned before for discussing it. The mods here don't mess around. Not my rule.

DELTAFO 04-13-2022 04:02 AM

It's been a few years since I've been OAL but I went to the customer service counter inside security in the E concourse in ATL

cornbeef007 04-13-2022 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3405382)
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I've been banned before for discussing it. The mods here don't mess around. Not my rule.

While I am sympathetic to your argument, the extreme Delta bias of the moderators is a well known phenomenon.

Why didn’t you just PM the guy if you were worried about being banned?

Therefor, the TOTD the ruling still stands.

Also, given the preponderance of evidence presented here, you are most assuredly an ATL based pilot.

Margaritaville 04-13-2022 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3405382)
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I've been banned before for discussing it. The mods here don't mess around. Not my rule.

Make sure you report me for sending him to the customer service counter, Ms. Hall Monitor.

CBreezy 04-13-2022 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by cornbeef007 (Post 3405397)
While I am sympathetic to your argument, the extreme Delta bias of the moderators is a well known phenomenon.

Why didn’t you just PM the guy if you were worried about being banned?

Therefor, the TOTD the ruling still stands.

Also, given the preponderance of evidence presented here, you are most assuredly an ATL based pilot.

What if I said NYC based and I don't wear a hat

cornbeef007 04-13-2022 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3405459)
What if I said NYC based and I don't wear a hat

I would laugh…I’m only giving you a hard time anyway.


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