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mispoken 04-18-2017 08:33 AM

7ER LOE Scenarioes
 
Coming up on CQ in the next few months. I don't recall the typical LOE scenarios from training and can't find them in the DIG. I'm told they recycle the same 6, wondering if theres a list of them that I can look over the QRH for/mentally prepare myself.

Thanks!

freezingflyboy 04-18-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2345646)
Coming up on CQ in the next few months. I don't recall the typical LOE scenarios from training and can't find them in the DIG. I'm told they recycle the same 6, wondering if theres a list of them that I can look over the QRH for/mentally prepare myself.

Thanks!

I went earlier this year. As I recall the biggie was departure from GRU, smoke in the cabin with a divert over high terrain/using terrain boxes.

Karnak 04-18-2017 09:30 AM

There are 3 this cycle:

1. IP takes you and other pilot down to an MD-88 sim, and the two of you spend 2-hours on hold with Crew Tracking trying to figure out what the heck happened.

2. During cockpit preflight, Dispatch sends ACARS that flight is cancelled and you have to sleep in crew lounge.

3. "A" period: First half is normal flight from JFK-BOS with 5 MELs. During the break you get re-routed to DTW, but not until the "D" period.

Vincent Chase 04-18-2017 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2345701)
There are 3 this cycle:

1. IP takes you and other pilot down to an MD-88 sim, and the two of you spend 2-hours on hold with Crew Tracking trying to figure out what the heck happened.

2. During cockpit preflight, Dispatch sends ACARS that flight is cancelled and you have to sleep in crew lounge.

3. "A" period: First half is normal flight from JFK-BOS with 5 MELs. During the break you get re-routed to DTW, but not until the "D" period.

This wouldn't be half as funny if I didn't expect there to be a bit of truth!
:eek:

freezingflyboy 04-18-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2345701)
There are 3 this cycle:

1. IP takes you and other pilot down to an MD-88 sim, and the two of you spend 2-hours on hold with Crew Tracking trying to figure out what the heck happened.

2. During cockpit preflight, Dispatch sends ACARS that flight is cancelled and you have to sleep in crew lounge.

3. "A" period: First half is normal flight from JFK-BOS with 5 MELs. During the break you get re-routed to DTW, but not until the "D" period.

Ouch. That hits a little close to home! :eek:

CPZ175 04-18-2017 12:36 PM

I don't know that this is the place to discuss the specifics of all of this.

The Student DIG will give you the basics, as well as everything you need to study for day 1. For the LOE, I'd focus on the major aircraft systems and assume one of them is going to fail, in some capacity. Do what you'd do on a normal line flight and you'll be fine.

Piklepausepull 04-18-2017 01:12 PM

Look in the Instructor DIG!

Easy Peasy!

I believe there are 7 choices....

dalad 04-19-2017 04:15 AM

Rgen trip on pushback, do a continue in service, right AC bus failure. If you're in an A period make sure you do a fine toothcomb of all the switches. Sim maintenance had it and the instructor even missed about 4-5.

Razor 04-19-2017 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CPZ175 (Post 2345844)
I don't know that this is the place to discuss the specifics of all of this.

I agree. It is a public forum after all.

badflaps 04-19-2017 11:32 AM

I told the crew on my non-rev trip today about LOE starting in "A" period and a reroute to "D" period. They were laughing so hard they almost blew push-back. That may become a classic.

forgot to bid 04-19-2017 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2345646)
Coming up on CQ in the next few months. I don't recall the typical LOE scenarios from training and can't find them in the DIG. I'm told they recycle the same 6, wondering if theres a list of them that I can look over the QRH for/mentally prepare myself.

Thanks!

They don't want that put out and so nobody will put it out.

Look through the student dig, look at events in the 402, 403, 404, not all of them are an LOE but it gives you an idea of what an LOE would be looking for you to do. So review the PPTs online for 402-404 and read the back sections of the QRH- that'll help you handle the MEL, flight ops and abnormal that will occur.

80ktsClamp 04-19-2017 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2345701)
There are 3 this cycle:

1. IP takes you and other pilot down to an MD-88 sim, and the two of you spend 2-hours on hold with Crew Tracking trying to figure out what the heck happened.

2. During cockpit preflight, Dispatch sends ACARS that flight is cancelled and you have to sleep in crew lounge.

3. "A" period: First half is normal flight from JFK-BOS with 5 MELs. During the break you get re-routed to DTW, but not until the "D" period.


....and Karnak wins the internet! Absolutely hilarious!

Recurrent is supposed to be driven by ASAP, FOQA, and FCR data.... soooooo, perhaps next cycle??

Jaww 04-20-2017 04:52 AM

This is the lamest threat ever. If you need advance notice for recurrent, maybe its time to hang up the spurs. And on a public forum no less. Embarrassing for our company IMHO.

notEnuf 04-20-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2347071)
This is the lamest threat ever. If you need advance notice for recurrent, maybe its time to hang up the spurs. And on a public forum no less. Embarrassing for our company IMHO.

I'm pretty sure this comes out of a professional sense of duty, not need. Are you in the habit of not preparing for a check ride?


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