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TRZ06 05-12-2017 08:05 AM


Originally Posted by Sliceback (Post 2362483)
25% of AA CA's are on w/b's. Includes 757's. 'Crew age by fleet' as source.

G4% is 16%.

If you're only interested in n/b flying legacy n/b advancement will be faster than at SW.

OK, more recent source one month forecast August 2017, 24apr17:
And yes our 767 groups include the 757, so the percentage would be even lower. APC figure 51 757s.

777/787/330/767/76T CAPT 1389

TTL CAPT. 5888
TTL FO. 7165
______________

TTL PILOTS 13053

WB CA TO TTL = .106 or 10 %

This should be the most accurate data FWIW unless my math is wrong

Dirtdiver 05-12-2017 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2362349)
Too bad. A career in cargo is more compatible with international widebody flying than any passenger airline. He really should rethink FedEx and UPS.

Wait till he has a year or two dealing with pax, especially post-Dao.

Peoloto 05-12-2017 09:39 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2362468)
Except

You will be a first officer forever.

You can only fly the 1960s cockpit 737 Guppy

The cockpit is Loud!

And extremely Small!

Other than that, you make great points.

Don't forget dealing with co workers who think they're musicians/comedians and a safety culture that encourages rushing.

iaflyer 05-12-2017 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by NikeBuddy (Post 2362287)
I know the original poster leaned toward long-haul type operations. But, considering the metrics we are talking about ($, profits, downturn, etc), they should consider SWA. 40+ consecutive quarters of profit. Paid a profit sharing check during both 9-11, and the 08-09 meltdown. Never declared bankruptcy, never furloughed a pilot. Great culture. Something to consider.

And an upgrade time that is measured by the decade.

David Puddy 05-12-2017 03:32 PM

I am surprised more legacies haven't yet ordered the C-Series besides Delta and Air Canada. Given its efficiency, range versatility and enhanced passenger comfort, I believe it will be a game changer...

gloopy 05-12-2017 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by David Puddy (Post 2362833)
I am surprised more legacies haven't yet ordered the C-Series besides Delta and Air Canada. Given its efficiency, range versatility and enhanced passenger comfort, I believe it will be a game changer...

Its still very much a risk. UA passed on them recently because BA/AB came hard to the paint and looked the other way while they shoplifted some 73s and 320s. Its hard for smaller companies to compete with mega companies and their devastating loss leaders. Canadair had to make a VERY lucrative deal, which is great because everyone loves a deal, but let's not fool ourselves. Its still unproven (Swiss and Baltic aren't close to enough) and we could end up with some orphaned hyper electronic Fokkers not far down the road.

Or it could do everything it promised and they stick around. If that's the case, everyone else will order it as well, so any advantage is minor and temporary. There is no magic airplane. Anyone remember when JB was going to dominate the industry by launching the mighty E190? :rolleyes:

David Puddy 05-12-2017 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2362851)
Its still very much a risk. UA passed on them recently because BA/AB came hard to the paint and looked the other way while they shoplifted some 73s and 320s. Its hard for smaller companies to compete with mega companies and their devastating loss leaders. Canadair had to make a VERY lucrative deal, which is great because everyone loves a deal, but let's not fool ourselves. Its still unproven (Swiss and Baltic aren't close to enough) and we could end up with some orphaned hyper electronic Fokkers not far down the road.

Or it could do everything it promised and they stick around. If that's the case, everyone else will order it as well, so any advantage is minor and temporary. There is no magic airplane. Anyone remember when JB was going to dominate the industry by launching the mighty E190? :rolleyes:

I agree that Bombardier needs to get more airframes out there. Swiss will get its first CS300 soon to add to its CS100s and Korean will get the first of seven CS300s due this year shortly.

Not seeing them fly in North America currently does not help marketing efforts...

Scoop 05-12-2017 04:33 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2362851)
Its still very much a risk. UA passed on them recently because BA/AB came hard to the paint and looked the other way while they shoplifted some 73s and 320s. Its hard for smaller companies to compete with mega companies and their devastating loss leaders. Canadair had to make a VERY lucrative deal, which is great because everyone loves a deal, but let's not fool ourselves. Its still unproven (Swiss and Baltic aren't close to enough) and we could end up with some orphaned hyper electronic Fokkers not far down the road.

Or it could do everything it promised and they stick around. If that's the case, everyone else will order it as well, so any advantage is minor and temporary. There is no magic airplane. Anyone remember when JB was going to dominate the industry by launching the mighty E190? :rolleyes:

Well if it is a game changer and we lock up the order book for a few years we can easily get a 5 year "minor and temporary" advantage. I'll take that.

I am looking forward to see some of the new long and thin routes we can make work out of LAX - any guesses?

LAX - BDL
LAX- PVD

Probably make some of the seasonal/Past flights LAX into year round

LAX-PHL
LAX-IND
LAX-Anywhere in FL.

The possibilities are numerous.

Scoop :)


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