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Karnak 06-16-2017 04:34 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2380432)
That's one option, but IMO its way better to bid 3 days on at a time and use a single PB day to drop the middle day. An alternative strategy is bid 5 on and drop the middle day. Not quite as good but still severely limits what they can give you. With that strategy you can often get almost a month off (with the occasional 1 day trip or SC unused) with the PB days earned from a single reserve GS. Now that's some serious ROI.

Another strategy I've heard is to sit Short Call 1,500 miles away...or more.

ROI data is still being calculated.

gloopy 06-17-2017 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Karnak (Post 2380558)
Another strategy I've heard is to sit Short Call 1,500 miles away...or more.

:D yeah and I heard they totally don't mind that either.

With the aforementioned strategy though, you'd hardly ever get a SC anyway with only one day of availability the whole month. If you did, obviously you'd have to be there, so slightly less sweet for commuters than locals, but still an epic QOL for the month considering a single 5 day (for extra pay) made it possible.

Denny Crane 06-17-2017 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2380402)
I did it in may, but it took a rather experienced southern gentleman in the CPSC to get it done.

Then either the contract has changed or you got a one time good deal. When I tried to do it in 2014, it was reversed. Here is a quote from the current SRH:

Q: What happens to my payback days if they are not used in the current year?
A: If the days have not been used prior to January 1, they will automatically be converted to supplemental (SUPP) vacation days to be used in the subsequent vacation year.If you wish to use the days in January, February, or March, you may enter a request for a personal drop (PD), or APD and when awarded via PCS, contact a Crew Scheduling supervisor to have the days of the personal drop converted to payback days, if desired . This will be shown on your Schedule as TOFF .

Denny

Denny Crane 06-17-2017 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2380432)
That's one option, but IMO its way better to bid 3 days on at a time and use a single PB day to drop the middle day. An alternative strategy is bid 5 on and drop the middle day. Not quite as good but still severely limits what they can give you. With that strategy you can often get almost a month off (with the occasional 1 day trip or SC unused) with the PB days earned from a single reserve GS. Now that's some serious ROI.

Yes that's a viable option. It just depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the PB days.........more money or more time off. Seems how it always comes down to that...:)

Denny

OOfff 06-17-2017 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2381049)
Then either the contract has changed or you got a one time good deal. When I tried to do it in 2014, it was reversed. Here is a quote from the current SRH:

Q: What happens to my payback days if they are not used in the current year?
A: If the days have not been used prior to January 1, they will automatically be converted to supplemental (SUPP) vacation days to be used in the subsequent vacation year.If you wish to use the days in January, February, or March, you may enter a request for a personal drop (PD), or APD and when awarded via PCS, contact a Crew Scheduling supervisor to have the days of the personal drop converted to payback days, if desired . This will be shown on your Schedule as TOFF .

Denny

That's if they have not been used in the current year. You can use them in the current year for an APD or PD, or until march of next year.

Denny Crane 06-17-2017 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2381122)
That's if they have not been used in the current year. You can use them in the current year for an APD or PD, or until march of next year.

You are going to have to provide a reference for me. I've emailed the Union and will get back to you with their response.

Denny

mispoken 06-17-2017 10:56 PM

I'm sorry if I missed it earlier, but, I thought PB Days are only useable from the bank if they have reserve coverage? Also if you GS and have remaining RES days aren't you forced to use them in your next set of RES days (assuming they're in the bid period from which you earned the PB days)? So for instance, I'm on an X day on the 22nd, I GS and then I'm on RES again the 28th-1st, won't I be forced to use the PB day in that RES period?

Denny Crane 06-17-2017 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by mispoken (Post 2381127)
I'm sorry if I missed it earlier, but, I thought PB Days are only useable from the bank if they have reserve coverage? Also if you GS and have remaining RES days aren't you forced to use them in your next set of RES days (assuming they're in the bid period from which you earned the PB days)? So for instance, I'm on an X day on the 22nd, I GS and then I'm on RES again the 28th-1st, won't I be forced to use the PB day in that RES period?

Yes. To use PB days to either drop a trip or reserve days, there must be adequate reserve coverage.

If you are on reserve and get a GS on your off days you get PB days that start (basically) on your next scheduled on call day. You bank PB days when the end of the month rolls around and you haven't been able to use all the PB days you are due. In your example of 28th-1st, it depends on what bid month the 1st is in. But yes, your off days roll over to be used on on call days in the same bid month. This is what allows one to "Roll Thunder."

Denny

OOfff 06-17-2017 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2381126)
You are going to have to provide a reference for me. I've emailed the Union and will get back to you with their response.

Denny

If you get a PB day in April, you can use it on your APD/PD/reserve day in may of the same year. Your above reference is just in the transition/liquidation of last year's PB days. No reference, just my experience.

Express pilot 06-17-2017 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by rvr350 (Post 2380252)
Some will tell you all kinds of secrets and tricks to sitting reserve, but i find myself at the mercy at CS when all said and done. You are sitting rsv, unless you are senior 5% sitting rsv, you will be abused at times, it is plain and simple. Whenever i try to "game" the rsv rules, i almost always got the short sticks, so just bid for days off you need, and good luck. Some months you will get called alot, others not as much (unless you are the plug, then sorry)

1. Live in base
2. Be 50% or higher
3. Bid Weekends off/ fly a GS
4. Get days off at the end of the month/ PB days in your bank
Great QOL for me/pay. I'm around top 40% in category. Its hard for me to bid a line.


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