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Denny Crane 06-18-2017 11:04 AM

Not to be argumentative..........but (:)) my experience is just the opposite so I figured I'd ask the union. It may have changed with the last contract. Also CP's and the PSC have some latitude and can do stuff we cannot. Will let you know what they say.

Denny

Denny

Denny Crane 06-20-2017 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 2381131)
If you get a PB day in April, you can use it on your APD/PD/reserve day in may of the same year. Your above reference is just in the transition/liquidation of last year's PB days. No reference, just my experience.

You got lucky. Good for you. Here is the response I got:

There have been no contractual changes that would allow the use of pay back days to recover time lost from the use of an APD.

Denny

Abouttime2fish 06-21-2017 05:50 PM

Once you are full on reserve, can you pick up trips on the pilot to pilot swap board? Have some unexpected expenses an extra trip would cover nicely.

GogglesPisano 06-21-2017 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish (Post 2383007)
Once you are full on reserve, can you pick up trips on the pilot to pilot swap board? Have some unexpected expenses an extra trip would cover nicely.

The Swapboard is for line-holders only. Sorry.

GS/YS is your only option.

notEnuf 06-22-2017 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2380339)
When do you start year two? If it's after the March 2018 bid period, use them this year. As Sputnik said, PB days from this year will be added to your vacation days for next year. They are called supplemental days and will be bid with vacation for 2018. You can still use them as PB days until the start of the April bid period. To use them in the Jan-Mar time frame, you will have to call crew scheduling and they do it manually.

Denny

PB days converted to VA days are paid out March 31, if not used. Also vacation time can be used to cover PD and APD time dropped. I call it the QOL cycle of life. PD or APD time - covered by VA time - covered by bank time - covered by paid out or converted PB time - covered by res GS PB days.

Denny Crane 06-22-2017 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2383261)
PB days converted to VA days are paid out March 31, if not used. Also vacation time can be used to cover PD and APD time dropped. I call it the QOL cycle of life. PD or APD time - covered by VA time - covered by bank time - covered by paid out or converted PB time - covered by res GS PB days.

At the end of the year, PB days earned become Supplemental Days and you bid them in conjunction with the following years vacation. These supp days can be used to cover an APD, PD etc into the Jan-Mar time frame. As far as pay, they are not paid out on March 31 of the subsequent year. They have the value of a vacation day added to the vacation bank. If you only use your vacation bank when you take vacation, you will be paid for the supp day along with the vacation you connected it to.....

If some one can get CS or the PSC to use PB days to cover an APD outside of the parameters I've listed, more power to you. They do not have too.

Denny

notEnuf 06-22-2017 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2383301)
At the end of the year, PB days earned become Supplemental Days and you bid them in conjunction with the following years vacation. These supp days can be used to cover an APD, PD etc into the Jan-Mar time frame. As far as pay, they are not paid out on March 31 of the subsequent year. They have the value of a vacation day added to the vacation bank. If you only use your vacation bank when you take vacation, you will be paid for the supp day along with the vacation you connected it to.....

If some one can get CS or the PSC to use PB days to cover an APD outside of the parameters I've listed, more power to you. They do not have too.

Denny

Unused VA time due to training are paid at the end of the year. Using PB days instead of rebidding the vacation for time off allows the payment.


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