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Old 06-14-2017 | 11:40 AM
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Was assigned a rotation that takes me up to 78:50 credit by the 20th of the month. Reserve gauruntee is 80 and ALV is 84. If I land the 20th with 1:10 left on my reserve guarantee and have reserve the 21st and then 28th of June to July 1st, they can use me up to ALV +15 on any of the remaining reserve days, So in this case, 99 hours, is that correct? However, if I land on the 20th with 80 hours credit or drop the 21st (last reserve day of the string) then I will be "full" and unable to be used the 28-1st, is that a correct statement?

Another option would be to yellow slip for a 1 day flight the 21st (assuming its legal) and take my credit above 80 hours, get short call and not get used (I think that gets you another hour?) which would leave me trying to find another 10 minutes of credit OR green slip on my days off from 22-27. Is this also a correct statement?

Finally, if I am at 80 hours by the 21st and am full for the month and green slip I am only paid 100% since I am a reserve holder. So if I find a 2 day trip I get 10:30 credit and payback days which would then have to be used on the 28-1st. OR I can take my 80 hours of credit and be off from the 22nd-1st. If this is correct then there is no advantage to green slipping those days off.

Basically, I need to fill up my reserve, as of now at 78:50, I'm at risk of being pushed all the way up to 99 hours. I find I don't typically overblock so I won't count on that. Thoughts?

Lot of stuff going on there! Thanks, as always!

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Old 06-14-2017 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mispoken
Was assigned a rotation that takes me up to 78:50 credit by the 20th of the month. Reserve gauruntee is 80 and ALV is 84. If I land the 20th with 1:10 left on my reserve guarantee and have reserve the 21st and then 28th of June to July 1st, they can use me up to ALV +15 on any of the remaining reserve days, So in this case, 99 hours, is that correct? However, if I land on the 20th with 80 hours credit or drop the 21st (last reserve day of the string) then I will be "full" and unable to be used the 28-1st, is that a correct statement?

Another option would be to yellow slip for a 1 day flight the 21st (assuming its legal) and take my credit above 80 hours, get short call and not get used (I think that gets you another hour?) which would leave me trying to find another 10 minutes of credit OR green slip on my days off from 22-27. Is this also a correct statement?

Finally, if I am at 80 hours by the 21st and am full for the month and green slip I am only paid 100% since I am a reserve holder. So if I find a 2 day trip I get 10:30 credit and payback days which would then have to be used on the 28-1st. OR I can take my 80 hours of credit and be off from the 22nd-1st. If this is correct then there is no advantage to green slipping those days off.

Basically, I need to fill up my reserve, as of now at 78:50, I'm at risk of being pushed all the way up to 99 hours. I find I don't typically overblock so I won't count on that. Thoughts?

Lot of stuff going on there! Thanks, as always!

Lots of question but basically you seem to have the gist of it. The one thing you did not mention was that if you could score a GS 28-01 you would get payback days which are far more valuable then getting your days off back.

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Old 06-14-2017 | 01:25 PM
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The 28-1 are RES days (although unusable if I fill up by the 20th), I get PB days for those if I fly on those days or did I miss something/the dates get messed up? Or is it just that a GS on my X days (22-27) would go into the PB day bank? Is there a difference?

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Old 06-14-2017 | 01:48 PM
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If you are full and fly on reserve days you do not get PB days for them. There is very little incentive to fly on reserve days once you are full.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 01:57 PM
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Seems like very little incentive to fly on X days as well, once you're full?

How did RES holders not get double pay for flying on X days once they hit the RES guarantee? I can see the reason for not getting double pay BELOW RES guarantee, but not sure I understand the logic behind once you meet the guarantee, but I'm sure there is some sort of logic.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 02:23 PM
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If you're full then fly, you will get paid for it. Whether that is sufficient incentive for you to fly on off day is up to you, but you do make more money.

As for gs on full res days you are not supposed to get pb days, but it sometimes happens anyway. That stuff is all done manually.
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Old 06-14-2017 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mispoken
Seems like very little incentive to fly on X days as well, once you're full?

How did RES holders not get double pay for flying on X days once they hit the RES guarantee? I can see the reason for not getting double pay BELOW RES guarantee, but not sure I understand the logic behind once you meet the guarantee, but I'm sure there is some sort of logic.
They do NOT get double pay. A reserve line holder gets single pay above guarantee and PB days for any day of the GS that touches an X day. The logic is.......you are not on a regular line...

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Old 06-15-2017 | 10:34 PM
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I'm new on reserve and trying to learn the contract. That was a nice summary and helped clear up some things in my head so thanks for the breakdown OP
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Old 06-16-2017 | 04:12 AM
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Some will tell you all kinds of secrets and tricks to sitting reserve, but i find myself at the mercy at CS when all said and done. You are sitting rsv, unless you are senior 5% sitting rsv, you will be abused at times, it is plain and simple. Whenever i try to "game" the rsv rules, i almost always got the short sticks, so just bid for days off you need, and good luck. Some months you will get called alot, others not as much (unless you are the plug, then sorry)
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Old 06-16-2017 | 05:43 AM
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Reserve GS is the only way to go. You essentially get paid above guarantee to move your day off.

Do this several times in a row and now you are rolling thunder. Rolling your days off to a later date or into the PB bank at the end of the month can be very useful. PB days are a great tool if used properly.
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