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Hank Kingsley 06-26-2017 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2385474)
If you can show I ever worked in management I will send you 25,000 dollars, if you can't you send me 1000.00 dollars. I will PM you the info you need to check if you take the bet!

That's a strange post. How did you come up with $25k. Dr. Evil would laugh. I'm officially offering $75k to bring you up to $100k. Or approximately one day at the office for Mr. Ed.

notEnuf 06-26-2017 04:48 PM

You may not be employed as a manager, but you are defiantly working for management. Skip the PM. I think collectively we can raise your $1000 to self identify. You could use the money if you're doing this all for free. Inquiring minds.

That would only be 10 in for $100 or 20 in for $50.

Well???

KnotSoFast 06-26-2017 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2385739)
You may not be employed as a manager, but you are defiantly working for management. Skip the PM. I think collectively we can raise your $1000 to self identify. You could use the money if you're doing this all for free. Inquiring minds.

That would only be 10 in for $100 or 20 in for $50.

Well???

.You guys are barking up the wrong tree. Sailingfun is most definitely NOT a mgt shill. He is, however, very, very well informed. The average forumite would be far better served by paying attention to his posts rather than piling onto emotional (bs) diatribes by the usual suspects.

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notEnuf 06-26-2017 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 2385855)
.You guys are barking up the wrong tree. Sailingfun is most definitely NOT a mgt shill. He is, however, very, very well informed. The average forumite would be far better served by paying attention to his posts rather than piling onto emotional (bs) diatribes by the usual suspects.

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My point exactly. He deseminates whatever is put in his ear. Without question and with just the right dose of superiority. In others words "you don't know what I (we) know, I (we) can't elaborate or explain it to you because it's not public consumption information and you won't understand anyway. So trust that I'm right and they'll never do that."

KnotSoFast 06-26-2017 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2385860)
My point exactly. He deseminates whatever is put in his ear. Without question and with just the right dose of superiority. In others words "you don't know what I (we) know, I (we) can't elaborate or explain it to you because it's not public consumption information and you won't understand anyway. So trust that I'm right and they'll never do that."

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.Chief pilots and, to a lesser degree, Line check pilots are privy to publicly undisclosed plans going forward. They are highly encouraged to pass that info on verbally to the pilot group. (Fly with an LCP after one of their meeting for great gouge). They are strictly forbidden, however, from posting that gouge on public forums, since shareholders would not be privy to that intel. I know who sailingfun is. My guess is that he has a highly placed source(s). His intel is very accurate. It is one of the interesting things that sets us apart from other companies--- management's willingness to pass down future plans to the pilots. I am grateful for that.
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Klsytakesit 06-26-2017 09:20 PM

More importantly, Ditch the FO and the FA's and disappear until there is an empty jet attached to the jetway. Even at Delta you dont have to sit around holding hands and singing kumbaya...Terrible sa on the part of the captain.

Han Solo 06-27-2017 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 2385871)
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.Chief pilots and, to a lesser degree, Line check pilots are privy to publicly undisclosed plans going forward. They are highly encouraged to pass that info on verbally to the pilot group. (Fly with an LCP after one of their meeting for great gouge). They are strictly forbidden, however, from posting that gouge on public forums, since shareholders would not be privy to that intel. I know who sailingfun is. My guess is that he has a highly placed source(s). His intel is very accurate. It is one of the interesting things that sets us apart from other companies--- management's willingness to pass down future plans to the pilots. I am grateful for that.
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Contrary to unpopular belief; being fed info from the top doesn't make you any smarter than the rest of us, it just makes you well informed. I highly value the raw info SF presents, and I also value his knowledge of black and white contractual questions, but when he forms/sells an opinion I feel like his proximity to management flaws his reasoning.

Vincent Chase 06-27-2017 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by KnotSoFast (Post 2385871)
It is one of the interesting things that sets us apart from other companies--- management's willingness to pass down future plans to the pilots. I am grateful for that.

And that info changes every week. :rolleyes:

Schwanker 06-27-2017 06:08 AM

Blindly parroting managements message can be very harmful to the pilots. Just think about TA1. We had an ATL FO rep encouraging others to vote for TA1 because he's seen the inside numbers. Hurry up and vote yes. Hurry up and give up our profit sharing. The ship is sinking. Better get it now because it'll be gone tomorrow!

Thinking your smarter than others because you've been fed some selective info by management doesn't make you smarter than others. It can make you vulnerable. If you're in a position to represent the pilot group and you buy into this selective info, you can forever harm the pilot group.

These "company" reps are just like a naive pilot in the Philippines. Oh you look like Movie Star, Oh you are soooo smart, Oh I love you long time. Hear it enough or just arrogant enough, some might actually buy into it.

cornbeef007 06-27-2017 06:40 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2385242)
That guy works for an airline named after a napkin.

And we share the name of a company that makes toilets....what's your point?


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