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Old 06-18-2017, 06:09 AM
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I haven't posted in a long time, but here I am. I witnessed very inappropriate behavior on a main line flight yesterday.

I was seated at the gate, awaiting boarding for the 3:29pm departure from Dal to Atl on 6/17/17.

The entire operating crew was seated across the aisle from me, in a very crowded gate. The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.

A newhire FA tried unsuccessfully to quieten or deflect her, but was unable. The Cap and Fo sat there eating a sandwich, and scrolling their IPad, and took no action whatsoever.

We are all entitled to our opinion and choice in life, but I don't believe that extends to public criticism of your employer and elected governmental leaders in public, while on duty in uniform.

Captains, be a Captain.....warrant the 4th stripe.

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I haven't posted in a long time, but here I am. I witnessed very inappropriate behavior on a main line flight yesterday.

I was seated at the gate, awaiting boarding for the 3:29pm departure from Dal to Atl on 6/17/17.

The entire operating crew was seated across the aisle from me, in a very crowded gate. The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.

A newhire FA tried unsuccessfully to quieten or deflect her, but was unable. The Cap and Fo sat there eating a sandwich, and scrolling their IPad, and took no action whatsoever.

We are all entitled to our opinion and choice in life, but I don't believe that extends to public criticism of your employer and elected governmental leaders in public, while on duty in uniform.

Captains, be a Captain.....warrant the 4th stripe.

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Isn't public criticism of Delta pretty much what this forum seems to be about?
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Originally Posted by FedElta View Post
I haven't posted in a long time, but here I am. I witnessed very inappropriate behavior on a main line flight yesterday.

I was seated at the gate, awaiting boarding for the 3:29pm departure from Dal to Atl on 6/17/17.

The entire operating crew was seated across the aisle from me, in a very crowded gate. The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.

A newhire FA tried unsuccessfully to quieten or deflect her, but was unable. The Cap and Fo sat there eating a sandwich, and scrolling their IPad, and took no action whatsoever.

We are all entitled to our opinion and choice in life, but I don't believe that extends to public criticism of your employer and elected governmental leaders in public, while on duty in uniform.

Captains, be a Captain.....warrant the 4th stripe.

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Years ago I flew AA all the time, as I had few other options. The sort of behavior you described was common on AA flights, from both the cabin and cockpit crew. I heard it in the plane, at the gate, on the shuttle bus, and on the tram. It was genuinely toxic, and so pervasive that I occasionally wondered if the crew would have their collective "head in the game" if an emergency arose.

I agree that the captain should have taken a leadership role and helped the FA understand that there is a time and place to express her frustrations, but doing it in front of the passengers was not appropriate.
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Isn't public criticism of Delta pretty much what this forum seems to be about?
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I understand your point, but being a semi- anonymous keyboard warrior is a bit different than on duty, in uniform, at the gate, surrounded by paying passengers..?
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Which offended you more, the criticism of DAL or POTUS. Don't worry, we know the answer.
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Which offended you more, the criticism of DAL or POTUS. Don't worry, we know the answer.
Wow...just wow. Do you have any idea how socially liberal Delta as a corporation is? This is the first time they've publicly supported anything close to a right of center issue in my time here. But in the end this isn't a left/right issue. It's a public theater showing the likeness of the sitting president being brutally murdered under the guise of free speech. You have the right to support it and others have the right not to support it.

The only reason they did was because Trump as the current president has the sway to go after the ME3. This wasn't out of the goodness of their heart. That the FA in question couldn't see the bigger picture is sad to say the least.
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Which offended you more, the criticism of DAL or POTUS. Don't worry, we know the answer.
You know what they say about assumptions....right . Did you not get "denigration of the brand" anywhere in there ?
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This kind of behavior used to be called "making a scene". It has less to do with personal beliefs than with a feeling of personal unimportance. Were such an individual more self-aware and articulate, they might cry out: "Look at me! Pay attention! I matter!".
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Originally Posted by FedElta View Post
I haven't posted in a long time, but here I am. I witnessed very inappropriate behavior on a main line flight yesterday.

I was seated at the gate, awaiting boarding for the 3:29pm departure from Dal to Atl on 6/17/17.

The entire operating crew was seated across the aisle from me, in a very crowded gate. The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.

A newhire FA tried unsuccessfully to quieten or deflect her, but was unable. The Cap and Fo sat there eating a sandwich, and scrolling their IPad, and took no action whatsoever.

We are all entitled to our opinion and choice in life, but I don't believe that extends to public criticism of your employer and elected governmental leaders in public, while on duty in uniform.

Captains, be a Captain.....warrant the 4th stripe.

Rant over,
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I hear ya, but these days, that's a guaranteed call from the CPO on your day off asking for a statement from you for "That time you yelled at the FA in front of the passengers and crew" -because you can bet a wack job like that will write your a$$ up in a NY minute and will do so in a very creatively bad for you kinda way. Throw in other factors, I'm not gonna say which, and it gets even worse. No thanks.
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I hear ya, but these days, that's a guaranteed call from the CPO on your day off asking for a statement from you for "That time you yelled at the FA in front of the passengers and crew" -because you can bet a wack job like that will write your a$$ up in a NY minute and will do so in a very creatively bad for you kinda way. Throw in other factors, I'm not gonna say which, and it gets even worse. No thanks.
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