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Old 06-18-2017, 10:51 AM
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given the survey breakdown of opinions...law of averages is ANY rant in that subject area is likely to **** off about half of the people within earshot.

I don't think even apple could **** off half their paying customers and survive.

may not have engaged in gatehouse social media video studio...but sure would have pointed it out once onboard.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:00 AM
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Isn't public criticism of Delta pretty much what this forum seems to be about?
Not exactly. But this forum is about calling out management shills. It might be why you find yourself routinely criticized here.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:23 AM
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The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.
Bwahahahahaha!

When someone is being that special, very few people will chime in trying to get them to stop. Most will put their feet up on their bag, bust out a reflective sun tanning device and hold out a large mug to catch those delicious tears in.
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Old 06-18-2017, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman View Post
This kind of behavior used to be called "making a scene". It has less to do with personal beliefs than with a feeling of personal unimportance. Were such an individual more self-aware and articulate, they might cry out: "Look at me! Pay attention! I matter!".
Or having a fit. But regardless, it will be interesting to see what happens when the first customer sends the CEO an email with the video attached of something like this.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FedElta View Post
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I understand your point, but being a semi- anonymous keyboard warrior is a bit different than on duty, in uniform, at the gate, surrounded by paying passengers..?
Which is a situation where the 4th stripe has no authority what so ever. While we might like to think pilots are respected and Captains in particular, the ROE are that we lose any time we dare request a professional act professional when the beacon is not flashing.
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Old 06-18-2017, 05:48 PM
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How do you interpret FOM 10.2.1?



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Which is a situation where the 4th stripe has no authority what so ever. While we might like to think pilots are respected and Captains in particular, the ROE are that we lose any time we dare request a professional act professional when the beacon is not flashing.
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Old 06-18-2017, 06:16 PM
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Walk up and politely change the subject. If that doesn't work, politely ask them to stop. If that doesn't work, give up and tell someone about it later. If your relationship at this point is such that it will affect your ability to communicate during flight, call the chief and boot them or yourself from the trip.

This is a scenario straight from the new hire interview. Use some tact and don't be an a hole. Captains this is your job at all times in uniform. FO's without CA around. On or off the plane. Including the hotel lobby.

Bottom line is don't be jerk and be safe. Treat everyone with respect, even when they don't respect themselves.

If you need to do some extra work on your day off, God forbid, just do it. It's part of the profession.
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Old 06-18-2017, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack View Post
Walk up and politely change the subject. If that doesn't work, politely ask them to stop. If that doesn't work, give up and tell someone about it later. If your relationship at this point is such that it will affect your ability to communicate during flight, call the chief and boot them or yourself from the trip.

This is a scenario straight from the new hire interview. Use some tact and don't be an a hole. Captains this is your job at all times in uniform. FO's without CA around. On or off the plane. Including the hotel lobby.

Bottom line is don't be jerk and be safe. Treat everyone with respect, even when they don't respect themselves.

If you need to do some extra work on your day off, God forbid, just do it. It's part of the profession.
Or... just head over to Chick Fil-A and chat up the cashier. More interesting and less hazardous to your career. Plus they have waffle fries, which are totally amazing with Catchup. Katsup. Whatever, it's the bomb. And they have lemonade which is also cool. The flight isn't leaving without ya so get what you need for that next leg. Don't worry about the FAs, they will be chowing down the whole way to Whateverville while you cross your legs waiting for that potty break and bag of smashed pretzels. The only political discussion should be whether you believe the bourgeois peasants in the back deserve APU air prior to D5.
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Old 06-18-2017, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack View Post
Walk up and politely change the subject. If that doesn't work, politely ask them to stop. If that doesn't work, give up and tell someone about it later. If your relationship at this point is such that it will affect your ability to communicate during flight, call the chief and boot them or yourself from the trip.

This is a scenario straight from the new hire interview.Use some tact and don't be an a hole. Captains this is your job at all times in uniform. FO's without CA around. On or off the plane. Including the hotel lobby.

Bottom line is don't be jerk and be safe. Treat everyone with respect, even when they don't respect themselves.

If you need to do some extra work on your day off, God forbid, just do it. It's part of the profession.
Sadly, all that TMMAT/WWYD/STAR/AAA crap we learn in interview prep is simply what gets us through the 45 minute show of airline pilot interview theatre to make the HR touchy-feely people feel better.

What happens real world/online is night and day different. As evidenced by multiple posts in this thread. Or multiple years in this career.
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Old 06-19-2017, 02:54 AM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy View Post
Not exactly. But this forum is about calling out management shills. It might be why you find yourself routinely criticized here.
If I ever worked in management you might have a point. There have been hundreds of posts far beyond what you state. The posters most in violation don't seem to post here anymore if at all. Since pretty much every single thing they posted starting before contract 2012 turned out wrong perhaps they got tired of being wrong. It may also be their posts led to unwanted attention and they are no longer around.
It's nice the last year to start seeing a new breed of posters far more positive then the "we're doomed I just know it, were all going to die" crowd that dominated here so long. Witness the recent posts on the fired pilots.
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