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Old 06-19-2017, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack View Post
Walk up and politely change the subject. If that doesn't work, politely ask them to stop. If that doesn't work, give up and tell someone about it later. If your relationship at this point is such that it will affect your ability to communicate during flight, call the chief and boot them or yourself from the trip.

This is a scenario straight from the new hire interview. Use some tact and don't be an a hole. Captains this is your job at all times in uniform. FO's without CA around. On or off the plane. Including the hotel lobby.

Bottom line is don't be jerk and be safe. Treat everyone with respect, even when they don't respect themselves.

If you need to do some extra work on your day off, God forbid, just do it. It's part of the profession.
In a perfect world, you're correct. In our world, good chance you'd be called in on your day off. Explain your justification for correcting the behavior of a fellow employee. Legal will have crafted the questions because the company is waiting for a suit. You'll be under suspicion of some type of discrimination. Gotta get a refill, my glass is half empty.
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Old 06-19-2017, 06:42 AM
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Personally I see no profit in interfering with a rant like that. Just potential loss. I would quietly distance myself and head to Starbucks. On the airplane would be a different story.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:00 AM
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Personally, I would (and have) let F/A ProStans know what was going on and let them handle the problem.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley View Post
In a perfect world, you're correct. In our world, good chance you'd be called in on your day off. Explain your justification for correcting the behavior of a fellow employee. Legal will have crafted the questions because the company is waiting for a suit. You'll be under suspicion of some type of discrimination. Gotta get a refill, my glass is half empty.
Sad but true. What a disgusting environment we live in. Call anyone out for their unprofessional behavior, they'll play the <insert whatever card>, legal gets involved and your butt fried. Sensitive snowflakes everywhere.
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Old 06-19-2017, 07:41 AM
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Personally, I would (and have) let F/A ProStans know what was going on and let them handle the problem.
That's great...IF you had a FA union with a Pro Standards committee. DAL has neither a FA union nor any sort of FA Pro Standards committee which would be the ideal venue to address these kinds of issues.

That is one very compelling reason to want to see FA/ACS/Tech Ops unions on the property.

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Old 06-19-2017, 10:10 AM
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It's a sad day when people are scared to do the right thing. This is all I can think of right now.

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Old 06-19-2017, 01:14 PM
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Personally I see no profit in interfering with a rant like that. Just potential loss. I would quietly distance myself and head to Starbucks. On the airplane would be a different story.
Or just take out the MAGA hat and just put it on and then go back to Breitbart on the phone. And smile big on the inside.
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It's a sad day when people are scared to do the right thing. This is all I can think of right now.

Discretion is the better part of valor.
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Originally Posted by FedElta View Post
I haven't posted in a long time, but here I am. I witnessed very inappropriate behavior on a main line flight yesterday.

I was seated at the gate, awaiting boarding for the 3:29pm departure from Dal to Atl on 6/17/17.

The entire operating crew was seated across the aisle from me, in a very crowded gate. The A line FA started on a loud rant criticizing DAL corporate decisions to withdraw sponsorship from a recent event.....she continued the vocal rant, to include accusing DAL management of being in bed with the current POTUS and the NRA.

A newhire FA tried unsuccessfully to quieten or deflect her, but was unable. The Cap and Fo sat there eating a sandwich, and scrolling their IPad, and took no action whatsoever.

We are all entitled to our opinion and choice in life, but I don't believe that extends to public criticism of your employer and elected governmental leaders in public, while on duty in uniform.

Captains, be a Captain.....warrant the 4th stripe.

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I don't doubt your post. And I understand your feeling. But if I may rebute. I've never seen anyone in a Delta uniform, from below the wing to Captain, act in a manner that I would feel like I had to correct at that immediate moment.
Those Jerry Springer incidents do happen. But it's rare. I've never seen one. This company does a couple things well, and we all know the image that Delta wants to project and back up. Most Captains at Delta know when to counsel, at the gate may not result in the desired outcome.

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Old 06-19-2017, 04:56 PM
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Those Jerry Springer moments are what everyone here seems to think will happen if they do their job. Don't lecture them at the gate, just change the subject.
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