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WhiskeyDelta 01-19-2018 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by FlightCrewTools (Post 2506859)
None of the above.



I wish it were that exotic. Panama does sound nice this time of year :D


Then why did it get shut down? The only thing official from ALPA was that it was done so due to “security concerns.”

Baradium 01-19-2018 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2506896)
Then why did it get shut down? The only thing official from ALPA was that it was done so due to “security concerns.”

That could just mean that they didn't like a third party having any interaction. It doesn't necessarily mean there was anything inherently wrong with the site other than not being controlled directly.

velosnow 01-19-2018 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2506991)
That could just mean that they didn't like a third party having any interaction. It doesn't necessarily mean there was anything inherently wrong with the site other than not being controlled directly.

When I was at my regional I put together a website that allowed reserves to share their schedules before we had a thing called 'reserve transparency' to track scheduling's shenanigans. Well, the IT folks at the company didn't like it and I was forced to shut it down.

Similar here perhaps as there was nothing 'wrong' with it, but somebody didn't like how things were being transmitted/shared.

FlightCrewTools 01-20-2018 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta (Post 2506648)
Is it true you are operating this site out of Panama and when MyIDTravel found out they pulled the plug?

No.


Originally Posted by awax (Post 2506863)
Where is your domain registered?

The DNS does show Panama. Explanation below. The actual site resides on a server in NYC. Domain registry has nothing to do with the physical location of the hosting server.


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2506885)
Your domain registrar that you used to register the domain, however, does use Panama as their contact address. That is probably where Panama comes into play.

You got it. When you buy a domain name from any of the main providers (Namecheap in our case) they typically throw in a free year of WhoisGuard - a company with a headquarters in Panama. They put their information in the DNS registry on websites’ behalf as part of their service, hence the Panama address.

It’s free for the first year and keeps a personal address off the internet, so being cheap pilots we said why not? Nothing more to the Panama thing than that.

If you want to do a little more digging, you can ping our domain name which will return an IP address that corresponds to a Digital Ocean server in NYC. I guess you could say that’s where we are “operating the site” from... Nothing nefarious going on, although I understand the initial concern when someone pulls up the DNS and sees Panama.

No data is ever sent to, or stored, outside of our secure VPS in NYC. There was, and is, no security issue. The Jumpseat Tool doesn’t do anything that can’t be accomplished manually, directly with myIDtravel.


Originally Posted by Baradium (Post 2506991)
That could just mean that they didn't like a third party having any interaction. It doesn't necessarily mean there was anything inherently wrong with the site other than not being controlled directly.

^^^Pretty much. As I’ve mentioned, I will get an email out as soon as we have time to put together an accurate message.

ExAF 01-20-2018 10:20 AM

No good deed goes unpunished!:cool:

WhiskeyDelta 01-20-2018 10:22 AM

Thanks for the explanations.


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Grumpyaviator 01-20-2018 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by FlightCrewTools (Post 2506625)
Yes. Absolutely.

All future charges have been stopped, and we are going to process refunds for all subscriptions ASAP, as mentioned on the site’s homepage.

All subscribers will also get an email explanation as soon as I can get it out. On a trip now and this came up suddenly - it may take me a few days to fully unwind everything and get a useful email out.

If you don’t see your refund in the next 7 days, or have any billing questions, send us an email and I will take care of it personally: [email protected]


Who operates myidtravel? You’d think they would appreciate someone facilitating their service or offer a deal of some kind to you so it benefits you both and improves their service?

Navmode 01-21-2018 03:28 AM


Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 2507403)
Who operates myidtravel? You’d think they would appreciate someone facilitating their service or offer a deal of some kind to you so it benefits you both and improves their service?

Lufthansa.

Razor 01-21-2018 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 2507314)
No good deed goes unpunished!:cool:

Wow, isn't that the truth. I think FlightCrewTools was doing a great job and I'm bummed to see it shutdown. Hopefully you guys can get back up and and running soon. Good luck!

tunes 02-04-2018 02:48 AM

Any updates on when the non JS stuff will be back?


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