Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2525207)

Inertia mostly. I have adapted to our current system. These over max pickups are how common? I did it once when I swapped a 2 day for a 4 day but it gave me 2 days off I needed. I probably could have dropped and then hoped for something to come available but I put a swap in to be sure I didn’t lose pay.

Again, I don’t think over max pickups are not common enough to address. VBs on the other hand are new and are easily put down. The data on VBs will come regardless of my objections. My fear is it will morph over time into something nobody wants or intended.

Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2525315)

I hadn't really heard of people doing this until I came to the WB. Now, I regularly hear other pilots talking about picking up to 100+ hours every month. I've even had a few guys tell me that they "don't really need vacation, because they get to much time off," so they use vacation months to get up over 110+ hours, with pickups and carryout trips... Even got an odd stare when I said I use those months to have lots of time off. Lol.

I'm all for people using the contract to their advantage, but I think a cap would be good for the whole group.

Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2525589)

There’s no uproar over max pickup because so many CAs try to hit 90-100 hours of credit per month. Lots of guys want to yell about protecting jobs till it affects their paycheck.

Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2525589)

There’s no uproar over max pickup because so many CAs try to hit 90-100 hours of credit per month. Lots of guys want to yell about protecting jobs till it affects their paycheck.

Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2526140)

~15 hours/month at 330 rate, plus PS, plus DC, plus per diem, plus international override...maybe $85k/yr? Not saying it's right, but I can understand where a guy trying to catch back up on retirement might be banking on 90-100 month.

Originally Posted by waldo135 (Post 2526316)

Not casting judgement, just can’t have it both ways.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2520775)

I agree. It's too much of a can of worms down the road (think future contract negotiations) to not just kill it now.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2526435)

Now you know why the first leg can't be an international crossing.

The limits that were put on this were put there for a reason. It works well in the middle of the country where there is a limited increase in credit and most rotations would be costal turns or two-days.

What also hampers Delta using VB's as designed is how network utilizes their jets. The bump in credit they outlined for BOS is because there is a still a large mix of 737's and 320's doing the flying. The decide to go one way or the other on their gauge, the issue goes away.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 2526435)

What also hampers Delta using VB's as designed is how network utilizes their jets. The bump in credit they outlined for BOS is because there is a still a large mix of 737's and 320's doing the flying. The decide to go one way or the other on their gauge, the issue goes away.