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Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 2612930)
They're already pulling from the regionals, but they'll need to replenish those seats (unless we can pull all of our flying up to mainline, which would be nice), to keep the operation going. They just don't think that hiring from the mil/regionals will be enough in the coming decade. Last time I was at Mecca it was mentioned that they expected to get 1/3rd from Military, 1/3rd from Regionals/135/et.., and 1/3rd from direct hire programs like this.
The first book I ever read about professional aviation (the name escapes me) was about a dude that retired as a WB Captain. The book starts out in the 60s or 70s, when he was flying home from college and he had no idea what he was going to do. Flipping through the pages of the airline magazine, he saw an add that said come fly for XX airline (I think AAL). They paid for all his training, got him experience and put him in the right seat. While they're not so desperate that they're paying for training (yet), what's old is new again... This is not a direct hire program. |
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
(Post 2612942)
This is not a direct hire program.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2612980)
Sure it is, into Endeavor. :D
That’s more like it! |
Originally Posted by SideSticker
(Post 2612912)
I quess my point would be if you want to be an airline pilot, you'd do well to skip militarily service, if you can afford an aviation college. The a seniority boost alone could be worth millions.
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All the other airlines will copy this program, even the LCCs, which may offer better initial placement, than a regional.
Ultimately, the airlines should pay for your college, and training if you get accepted into these programs. Otherwise, I see them as an excuse, for these already ripoff Universities, to raise tuition. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2612123)
...when in fact the company controls the seniority list completely.
The company may control who gets added to the bottom of the list, but after that they have almost zero control over the seniority list. |
Originally Posted by Mesabah
(Post 2613033)
Ultimately, the airlines should pay for your college, and training if you get accepted into these programs. Otherwise, I see them as an excuse, for these already ripoff Universities, to raise tuition.
While this strategy (more like a lack thereof) may end up providing some of the supply needs going forward, it will do so by guaranteeing a massive cost increase in that supply, but as Jerry Seinfeld says, "that's 'Tomorrow Guy's' problem" :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDelta
(Post 2612942)
This is not a direct hire program.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 2613036)
That's not even close to how it works.
The company may control who gets added to the bottom of the list, but after that they have almost zero control over the seniority list. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2613063)
Would you care to explain? The only control we have is what is in the contract if the company chooses to merge. We can’t as a union simply decide as a example to put all 9e pilots on the list. The company however can make that decision.
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