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m3113n1a1 06-29-2018 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 2624510)
I thought he said previous day was an X-Day. What am I missing? 0830 is early as that would be the first day in a block of reserve days.

2030 is when his trip starts.

Jaww 06-29-2018 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2624591)
2030 is when his trip starts.

Yup. That was the disconnect. Thanks.

Rooster435 07-05-2018 04:12 AM

Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

HTBH 07-05-2018 08:31 AM

Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

deadseal 07-05-2018 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 2628204)
Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

Sometimes you have to move days one at a time if you are splitting them up into 2 different spots.

Tummy 07-05-2018 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 2628054)
Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

I'm not sure what you mean by "exceeding block limits." I think 23 S. 9. will help you if you were rerouted, and 23 S. 12. will help you if you intruded on your golden day as a result of late operations.

If a reroute, you should be given nine hours free of duty upon your release at the completion of your rotation. Your X day(s) will then begin immediately following the nine-hour period and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

If late operations, your X-day(s) begin upon your release at the completion of your rotation and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

There are examples following both 23 S. 9. and 23 S. 12.

Both sections talk about reserve pilots flying into X days as opposed to golden X days, so I may be wrong, but hopefully this points you in the right direction. I've had to call crew scheduling to get my X days sorted on my last three consecutive green slips and the last time that I was flown into X days as a reserve pilot. I'm sure you'll have to call them as well.

Rooster435 07-05-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Tummy (Post 2628305)
I'm not sure what you mean by "exceeding block limits." I think 23 S. 9. will help you if you were rerouted, and 23 S. 12. will help you if you intruded on your golden

If a reroute, you should be given nine hours free of duty upon your release at the completion of your rotation. Your X day(s) will then begin immediately following the nine-hour period and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

If late operations, your X-day(s) begin upon your release at the completion of your rotation and will continue until you have received a period of 24 hours free of duty for each interrupted and remaining X-day in your scheduled X-day block.

There are examples following both 23 S. 9. and 23 S. 12.

Both sections talk about reserve pilots flying into X days as opposed to golden X days, so I may be wrong, but hopefully this points you in the right direction. I've had to call crew scheduling to get my X days sorted on my last three consecutive green slips and the last time that I was flown into X days as a reserve pilot. I'm sure you'll have to call them as well.

Thanks, I’ll take a look at those sections. Our last leg would have taken us over the FAR 117 FDP block limit (9 hours in our case) so they pulled us off and we dead headed home the next morning.

Denny Crane 07-05-2018 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by HTBH (Post 2628204)
Another Reserve question for the masses and the experts....

If you pick up a GS at the start of the months you immediately get PB days. Can you move on call days you have later in the month into those PB days or are you not able to do that? I'm trying to move two on call days at the end of the month and one day at the end of a five day block I have in the middle of the month into three days on call where the PB days are. Keeps telling me I'm violating grouping requirements. Even though I'd end up with a three day block, a four day block and a five day block left if I do it.

It sounds like you want to move an X day to cover a PB day? You cannot do that. What you can do is move your X days to follow a PB day. You can also move the PB days to some other on call days in the month as long as X day groupings are not violated.

Now if you hav a PR day (partial reserve), you’re kinda hosed. You cannot move X days to follow a PR day and you cannot move it either.

As was suggested, you might try moving one day at a time.

Denny

Denny Crane 07-05-2018 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by Rooster435 (Post 2628054)
Another reserve question.

Sitting reserve for the first time in a while so I’m a little cloudy on all the intricacies.

I was flown into a Golden X day due to exceeeding block limits. I see reroute pay on my time card but do I get that x day back somewhere?

Give scheduling a call. If you don’t like the answer, call the union. If you still don’t like the answer, research in the contract or............consider it a lesson learned.

Denny

Gspeed 07-06-2018 09:35 AM

How does one move a PB day? Will iCrew accept that entry and treat it the same as moving an X day? Or do you have to call Scheduling?


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