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Old 01-21-2020, 09:02 AM
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Has anyone set up the automatic mega back door conversion with Fidelity? How is it working out? Also, I'm assuming the expense ratios of the funds are different? I only do the index funds which have really low expense ratios in our Delta plan. Is the Fidelity IRA similar?
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Old 01-21-2020, 09:06 AM
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Has anyone set up the automatic mega back door conversion with Fidelity? How is it working out? Also, I'm assuming the expense ratios of the funds are different? I only do the index funds which have really low expense ratios in our Delta plan. Is the Fidelity IRA similar?
I thought the in-plan conversion could be set up to happen automatically, but the mega back door to IRA required a phone call every time....anyone confirm/deny?
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I thought the in-plan conversion could be set up to happen automatically, but the mega back door to IRA required a phone call every time....anyone confirm/deny?
correct on both
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Originally Posted by Ar Pilot View Post
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So the in-plan conversion converts your 401a funds to Roth 401k funds?
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Old 01-21-2020, 03:04 PM
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Just did it this morning, moved $ from 401a to a Fidelity Roth IRA. I was on the phone 5 minutes max. They are familiar and it’s it’s no big deal. Low expense ratios on the index funds in the IRA.
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For those that are doing the mega back door to Roth IRA, if you already had a Roth IRA outside of Fidelity, I assume you rolled the original Roth IRA into the Fidelity Roth IRA?
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For those that are doing the mega back door to Roth IRA, if you already had a Roth IRA outside of Fidelity, I assume you rolled the original Roth IRA into the Fidelity Roth IRA?
I did not. I kept my Roth IRA with Vanguard and I've continued to contribute the yearly max to that via the backdoor Roth IRA. I open the fidelity Roth IRA to do my 401a rollovers.
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I did not. I kept my Roth IRA with Vanguard and I've continued to contribute the yearly max to that via the backdoor Roth IRA. I open the fidelity Roth IRA to do my 401a rollovers.
So you do both...for some reason I was under the impression you could only do either the in plan conversion or the mega.

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Originally Posted by DWC CAP10 USAF View Post
So you do both...for some reason I was under the impression you could only do either the in plan conversion or the mega.

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The short answer is yes you may do both (I do), either or neither depending on your circumstances, priorities and goals.

They are 2 separate things. The confusion may be coming from the common use of the term “backdoor”.

1. Backdoor Roth IRA: Google “Backdoor Roth IRA White Coat Investor”

2. Mega Backdoor Roth: Google “Mega Backdoor Roth White Coat Investor” (note the absence of IRA in this term)

It’s important that you read up on this to understand the difference between these two maneuvers before attempting either one. They are not related to each other at all, but each has its own set of considerations.

As was mentioned a few posts back, there is ALOT of questionable info being shared in this thread. Make sure you know what you’re doing or get some professional advice if necessary.
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge View Post
The short answer is yes you may do both (I do), either or neither depending on your circumstances, priorities and goals.

They are 2 separate things. The confusion may be coming from the common use of the term “backdoor”.

1. Backdoor Roth IRA: Google “Backdoor Roth IRA White Coat Investor”

2. Mega Backdoor Roth: Google “Mega Backdoor Roth White Coat Investor” (note the absence of IRA in this term)

It’s important that you read up on this to understand the difference between these two maneuvers before attempting either one. They are not related to each other at all, but each has its own set of considerations.

As was mentioned a few posts back, there is ALOT of questionable info being shared in this thread. Make sure you know what you’re doing or get some professional advice if necessary.
thanks for the google links!

I already have an appointment set up with my finance guy to chat...I just didn’t want to walk into the meeting with zero clue about my options.
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