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Flytolive 10-20-2018 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 2694790)
Agreed. It's sasy to give a .05% reduction (all the way in 2020), when almost every airline is getting a ~3% pay raise in a few months. On top of that, 3 or 4 airlines will have recently signed/will be signing new contracts with even more raises. I get that it's still a % reduction, but it won't impact them in the least.
Actually ALPA dues revenue will be lower due to so many lower paying new-hires and probationary pilots coupled with increasing retirements.

crewdawg 10-20-2018 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2694793)
Actually ALPA dues revenue will be lower due to so many lower paying new-hires and probationary pilots coupled with increasing retirements.
Ya, and our newhires are make FAR more than they were just 5 years ago. Learn to cut some fat, they'll be just fine.

Flytolive 10-20-2018 08:33 AM
The last ten years might have been ALPA's best. 1.9%/1.85% is the best investment most pilots will ever make. Might need some of those reserves if the SCOTUS creates national right work case law for private corporations.

PilotJ3 10-20-2018 09:50 AM
And the Regional guys are getting pay raises also. My First year paying alpa I made $28k, these days they are getting payed double.

They also added JetBlue, WestJet and other companies to ALPA. There’s no reason to keep the dues this high.

Flytolive 10-20-2018 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotJ3 (Post 2694831)
And the Regional guys are getting pay raises also. They also added JetBlue, WestJet and other companies to ALPA. There’s no reason to keep the dues this high.
DAL & UAL account for 60% of ALPA revenue. The effect of regional pay is negligible. ALPA revenues are decreasing due to demographics at the A carriers.

notEnuf 10-20-2018 10:19 AM
l already spent my savings at Starbucks this morning. Ah delicious!! Thank you... me.:rolleyes:

Flytolive 10-20-2018 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2694839)
l already spent my savings at Starbucks this morning. Ah delicious!! Thank you... me.:rolleyes:
And how have you spent the double digit pay increases? Thank you ALPA.

notEnuf 10-20-2018 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2694841)
And how have you spent the double digit pay increases? Thank you ALPA.
The same way everyone else has. On the union among other things. As a member, thanks again... me.:rolleyes:

Is ALPA some benevolent overlord we must pay homage to? It was a token gesture but political fuel for sure.

SayMach 10-20-2018 10:46 AM
That’s pretty lousy. I thought 1.0% was feasible and 1.5% was a given knowing how much more ALPA is getting now than they were 8-10 years ago.

Also, saying the smaller MECs have a hard time operating on 1.8 or less is a poor excuse. Most regionals are making 30-60% more across the board than they did 5 years ago.

notEnuf 10-20-2018 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flytolive (Post 2694838)
DAL & UAL account for 60% of ALPA revenue. The effect of regional pay is negligible. ALPA revenues are decreasing due to demographics at the A carriers.
We should have gotten rid of the B,C,D carriers years ago. One union, one brand, one scope, one list. We only cheat ourselves.


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