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m3113n1a1 11-24-2018 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 2713294)
It's being capitalized for emphasis. Despite being Section 1 of the PWA, pilots sometimes need a reminder of the importance. It's like SHOUTING FROM YOUR KEYBOARD.

Whenever I talk with other pilots in the cockpit or crew lounge I always make sure to yell the word SCOPE as loudly as I can also...

Denny Crane 11-24-2018 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by Hillbilly (Post 2713132)
I agree. We’ve been working on AeroMexico by itself for about 2 years now. Both sides share blame for that. When you add the other JVs and a full Section 6 with work rule and retirement issues, I have no reason to believe there will be any deal achieved for several years, despite gzsg’s optimism.

I go back and forth about how long I think negotiations will take. With AA and UAL in or soon to be in negotiations, I think that will only help us. As someone mentioned earlier, maybe it will drive management to come to a deal first in hopes of avoiding the pattern up bargaining that will take place if AA and UAL come to a deal first.

Then again, maybe not!;)

Denny

Denny Crane 11-24-2018 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2713351)
Whenever I talk with other pilots in the cockpit or crew lounge I always make sure to yell the word SCOPE as loudly as I can also...

You do that one................I'll do RETIREMENT!:D

That way we cover both bases!

Denny

Sniper66 11-24-2018 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2713414)
I go back and forth about how long I think negotiations will take. With AA and UAL in or soon to be in negotiations, I think that will only help us. As someone mentioned earlier, maybe it will drive management to come to a deal first in hopes of avoiding the pattern up bargaining that will take place if AA and UAL come to a deal first.

Then again, maybe not!;)

Denny






Me too clause is a must
Like United did

Gunfighter 11-25-2018 06:02 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2713351)
Whenever I talk with other pilots in the cockpit or crew lounge I always make sure to yell the word SCOPE as loudly as I can also...


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 2713417)
You do that one................I'll do RETIREMENT!:D

That way we cover both bases!

Denny

I think I'll try a contradictory approach from now on and whisper "scope" and "retirement". It makes it sound like a secret.

* please do not confuse the whipser of scope and retirment as "whispers from Top Men" regarding improvements to either.

notEnuf 11-26-2018 07:35 AM

It's just easier to emphasize SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT with caps lock rather than

SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT

It seemed to start with 2012 negotiations but really came on with 2015.

And yes, I'm shouting SCOPE from the keyboard.

Denny Crane 11-26-2018 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2714171)
It's just easier to emphasize SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT with caps lock rather than

SCOPE, PAY, QOL, HEALTH and RETIREMENT

It seemed to start with 2012 negotiations but really came on with 2015.

And yes, I'm shouting SCOPE from the keyboard.

I LIKE IT!:D

Denny

GogglesPisano 11-26-2018 10:29 AM

I'll add Comfort Plus for all domestic DH's.

If the ocean crossers get Delta One, why can't we domestic dogs get C+?

Hillbilly 11-26-2018 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2714269)
I'll add Comfort Plus for all domestic DH's.



If the ocean crossers get Delta One, why can't we domestic dogs get C+?



I think if it’s a DH followed by flying within a single FDP, the DH seat should be in First Class/Delta One. If I’m not flying afterwards, as long as they keep me out of a middle seat in the back I’m mostly content.

m3113n1a1 11-26-2018 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2714269)
I'll add Comfort Plus for all domestic DH's.

If the ocean crossers get Delta One, why can't we domestic dogs get C+?

Agreed. And the fact that we can deadhead from like BOS-LAX in a middle seat in economy when that's longer than some "ocean crossings" is a little strange. It should be based on the length of the flight, not whether the aircraft is flying over solid ground or water.


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