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Old 12-15-2018 | 09:58 AM
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Ok, I haven’t researched this via the contract yet but thought I’d pick the brains of the collective.

Now the facts. First, as you all know by now, I’m Seattle based. Second, I’ve got recurrent training in January. Third, I’m scheduled for 2 E periods and as a matter of fact, all the training patterns for January had 2 E periods so I couldn’t bid for anything else.

Am I due any extra pay for the E periods, considering I’m Seattle based? Never done an E period and am not looking forward to it...

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Old 12-15-2018 | 10:08 AM
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I think there was a little discussion over on fb about this and they said it was based on pilots base time which lead me to believe no extra pay for you... but that seems insane to me so I’m definitely looking forward to hearing from the experts.
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Check out PWA 11.F.7.e..... looks like you’ll get an extra 4 hours per sim
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Old 12-15-2018 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Papasmurf
Check out PWA 11.F.7.e..... looks like you’ll get an extra 4 hours per sim
Thanks, I'll take a look.

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Edit: I just took a look at it and the scheduled in the box sim time for an E period is 2230-0229. Based on Pacific time.............no soup for me. Thanks for the reference

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Sorry about that. Thought the E period was later.
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Old 12-15-2018 | 01:18 PM
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Such is life. Thanks for the reference. They changed the Sim periods awhile back and added an F period. THAT would generate extra pay.

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Old 12-16-2018 | 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Such is life. Thanks for the reference. They changed the Sim periods awhile back and added an F period. THAT would generate extra pay.

Denny


That’s correct, however the E period would trigger additional pay for a pilot based in MSP, DTW, CVG, NYC or ATL since the debriefing ends at 0259 ET. SLC pilots would miss out by 1 minute on the 0100 base time provision.

I think this is why all of the E periods seem to be in the training bid packages for LAX and SEA.
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Old 12-16-2018 | 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Hillbilly
That’s correct, however the E period would trigger additional pay for a pilot based in MSP, DTW, CVG, NYC or ATL since the debriefing ends at 0259 ET. SLC pilots would miss out by 1 minute on the 0100 base time provision.

I think this is why all of the E periods seem to be in the training bid packages for LAX and SEA.
The 320 SLC guys got a lot of it, all thought they were getting paid extra and it turned out not. But I guess the 320 LAX base when it opens soon will get it.
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It was my understanding that E periods were voluntary only, and you get extra pay for it..At least ATL based, I'm not sure if other bases are different based on time zones.
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Old 12-16-2018 | 06:09 AM
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Your pay for sim training is determined by local base time. So it depends on what time zone your base is in. A while ago the company shortened the “in the box” time by a half an hour (I think) and added an F period.

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