Rest Assignments
 

Has CS automated the rest assignment process? I am now getting assigned rest prior/into every XX/** day which didn't used to happen. As a follow-on, once assigned and acknowledged does anybody have any history of CS rescinding the assigned rest (contractually I don't see why they couldn't do it, just trying to get a feel for what's normally done).

Here is a hypothetical situation, assigned a 3 day trip and REST:
TRIP
TRIP
TRIP (REST)
** (REST)
RES
RES
RES

Once assigned the trip/rest, move the ** day to now have this:

TRIP
TRIP
TRIP (REST)
RES (REST)
RES
RES
XX

Does anybody know if the computer or CS will recognize this technique and just remove the rest?

Hello Han, 4 years of reserve now by choice. They did automate in a way. From what a scheduler said it’s a trigger they get every time someone gets within so many days of an Xday and can act on it or not depending on availability. I’ve never seen them give me rest with more than the min time to change an X-day, but if so, I would definitely give that a try. I have personally witnessed them give me rest, then have to GS cause of a pop up trip so I don’t think they can retroactively “un rest” you. But hey, all I know is I stayed at a holiday in last night.

Last reserve trip was in October.......living the dream my friend, long way from 12 hour days, sof, sup, vdo, cc calls at 5pm on a Friday after a 4vX and still having to debrief

You have to move XX days 3 days in advance, so if you take my example as a LC assignment assigned the day prior to the TRIP, you would have enough time to move that ** day. I've done it before where I needed REST one way or the other but never in a case like this hypothetical situation, where moving the ** day would only give me 6 days of RES in a row and thus eliminate the need for any rest during my RES commitment.

As for "unresting", if you've already begun the rest then you have no obligation to check your schedule so they probably couldn't rescind it. In a situation like my hypothetical I'm required to check my schedule within 30 minutes of block-in on the last leg of my TRIP so I assume they'd have up to that point to rescind it.

Rest on an x day
 

If you have a 30 hour rest over an x day that ends early the next morning (think around 0100) can they still require you to check your schedule prior to 3pm in order to give you the only 10 hours lead call out coming off of an x day? Thanks all. Seems like that would negate the 30 hours rest if required to check schedule. Am I missing something?

You’re not required to check your schedule on an x-day.

The 10am/3pm carveout is a requirement on the company ... to have morning assignments done early enough for you to plan around them.

It’s for your convenience. You are not required to check your schedule at 3pm...or ever on an xday

OK, I am with you there, but can they give you a trip with less than 12 hours from the end of your 30 hour rest then? Because they did, I called and asked, and so far they said too bad it's your trip. Is that right?

The FAR requirement is only 10 hours from the end of your 30 hrs rest. You aren't required to check your schedule earlier than that but the company is required contractually to have it on your schedule via the carveout to use it. If you don't self notify they'll call you when your reserve availability starts to notify you. The 3pm day prior does not affect rest because it is at your option to give you more advance noticed of what is coming (it's actually hours prior to availability so not necessarily always 3pm).

Short answer: there is nothing illegal about the assignment from what you have said thus far.

Thanks for the responses so far. I guess since they can't call me until 0100 from the end of the 30 hours rest, is it always a 10 hour call out or is that just for the first day? I guess I always thought long call was a 12 hour call out. Again, thanks for the quick replies all.

From my understanding, it is only the first day after a no-fly day. So same as your first day of reserve after an X day. 12 hour min call out unless they put it on your schedule by 1500 the day prior, then10 hour min. I agree that it is a gray area between FAR rest requirement, “required” schedule check and 10 vs 12 hour callout. It happened to me a couple of months ago and the ALPA guys confirmed it is in accordance with the PWA.

Thanks, I guess that is one more thing for my next ALPA survey👍