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notEnuf 01-19-2019 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2745986)
Might be time to fly with your favorite captain every trip.

Not yet because he can't hold what he wants for QOL. Top half or bust. Bidding strategic reserve and working the OE and GSs pay about the same but the flying (or lack of) is waaaaay better. Comfortably "wasting" my time at home. Our kind of money goes a long way where I live so I'm not in a hurry. 7 years left seat 121 in a jet before Delta has given me perspective.

Again, 95% of what I put out there is with my tongue firmly lodged in the side of my mouth. ;)

m3113n1a1 01-19-2019 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Iceberg (Post 2746004)
That could be it. I have heard that offer a few times but the vast majority snag a walk around here and there.

100% of the guys I've flown with (3ish year sample size) have done the walk around on my leg. I think it's a west coast thing maybe.

GliderCFI 01-19-2019 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by m3113n1a1 (Post 2746084)
100% of the guys I've flown with (3ish year sample size) have done the walk around on my leg. I think it's a west coast thing maybe.

I think it's fleet/base specific for sure. In a Midwestern base in a French airplane I NEVER once had a CA offer to do a walk around. Not even in Bermuda, where the weather was WAY above Captain walk around mins. Yet NY 7ER I saw captains do a lot of them. 717 I think most of the A's take walk arounds as a PM. Heck I even did it in the rain recently! Voluntarily!

crewdawg 01-19-2019 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2746099)
I think it's fleet/base specific for sure. In a Midwestern base in a French airplane I NEVER once had a CA offer to do a walk around. Not even in Bermuda, where the weather was WAY above Captain walk around mins. Yet NY 7ER I saw captains do a lot of them. 717 I think most of the A's take walk arounds as a PM. Heck I even did it in the rain recently! Voluntarily!

I was a DTW73NB for about 2.5 years and only ever had 1, maybe 2 Captain not do the walkaround.

80ktsClamp 01-19-2019 11:07 AM

I’ve only missed one walkaround when the FO was PF, and that was first flight of the day walking on a plane with some pretty atrocious MEL errors.

FO looked at me, said “boy that looks like a lot of fun... I’m gonna go for a walk while you enjoy being a captain.” ;)

notEnuf 01-19-2019 02:47 PM

I usually have to beat the captain out the door if I want to do my FL walk arounds. I enjoy the leisurely leg stretch on my turns.

NERD 01-19-2019 03:03 PM

Keep in mind that at NWA the CA never did the walk around(when I got hired the only person qualified to on the 727 was the FE and the first flight of the day the FE pre-flighted both the CA's and FO's sides of the cockpit. They drank coffee, read the USA Today and Bs'd with the FA's). Wasn't their job. Speaking for myself only, when the merger happened, I was told by FO's that at Delta the CA did, my replay was "yea right". I've since learned to embrace the walk around as the longer I stay gone, the more gets done, like everything:) Just remember it's still the FO's job. We have had lots of complaints of the assumption that walk arounds will be shared.





Originally Posted by GliderCFI (Post 2746099)
I think it's fleet/base specific for sure. In a Midwestern base in a French airplane I NEVER once had a CA offer to do a walk around. Not even in Bermuda, where the weather was WAY above Captain walk around mins. Yet NY 7ER I saw captains do a lot of them. 717 I think most of the A's take walk arounds as a PM. Heck I even did it in the rain recently! Voluntarily!


TED74 01-19-2019 03:33 PM

I don't need these Captains getting any more exercise than absolutely necessary.

Unless it's icy.

DWC CAP10 USAF 01-19-2019 03:35 PM

In my case, 100% of the Capts that did not do walk arounds were former NW.

Yes I know at NW the Capts didn’t do them.

At Delta Init Qual, we were told the PM was responsible for walk around....no I can’t find that written in ink.

Vol1 says “Exterior Inspection - Captain or First Officer”

Bucking Bar 01-19-2019 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 2746251)
I've since learned to embrace the walk around as the longer I stay gone, the more gets done, like everything:) Just remember it's still the FO's job. We have had lots of complaints of the assumption that walk arounds will be shared.

It is non-standard and not approved, but, one pilot does the outside, the other does the inside, works well when we have all the extra tools available to us to help the Flight Attendants plan their side of the flight. Plenty of time in the final 30 minutes of boarding to brief, cross-check and verify.

Just saying.


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