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07-31-2019, 08:32 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 648
Originally Posted by cornbeef007
Ha, we are already there....many of our pairings are abysmal compared to anything I ever saw at the regionals.
Leather jackets would be better then the trench coat. When folks out west see a person in a trench coat, we think one of two things:
They are going to whip it open and be naked or bust out an AR and start mowing down.
Leather jackets would be better then the trench coat. When folks out west see a person in a trench coat, we think one of two things:
They are going to whip it open and be naked or bust out an AR and start mowing down.
07-31-2019, 08:37 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 539
Originally Posted by cornbeef007
Ha, we are already there....many of our pairings are abysmal compared to anything I ever saw at the regionals.
You must have come from an atypical regional or been very senior. Our 717 trips are way better than my typical regional trips.
07-31-2019, 02:08 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,987
Just keep the current language in regards to them. 10:30 pay for a 2 day. And no one forced to fly them.
With that being said, they can sometimes be a good deal and the people calling them unsafe are being dramatic. They aren't any worse than a 30hr layover circadian flip. Also if an 11hr long international flight is legal and safe with a crappy 3hr nap in a delta one seat or bunk, how is an 11hr (usually less) long duty period with one short flight to an over night, 5-6hrs sleep in a nice hotel bed, and then one short flight home any less safe?
With that being said, they can sometimes be a good deal and the people calling them unsafe are being dramatic. They aren't any worse than a 30hr layover circadian flip. Also if an 11hr long international flight is legal and safe with a crappy 3hr nap in a delta one seat or bunk, how is an 11hr (usually less) long duty period with one short flight to an over night, 5-6hrs sleep in a nice hotel bed, and then one short flight home any less safe?
07-31-2019, 02:15 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 1,076
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
Just keep the current language in regards to them. 10:30 pay for a 2 day. And no one forced to fly them.
With that being said, they can sometimes be a good deal and the people calling them unsafe are being dramatic. They aren't any worse than a 30hr layover circadian flip. Also if an 11hr long international flight is legal and safe with a crappy 3hr nap in a delta one seat or bunk, how is an 11hr (usually less) long duty period with one short flight to an over night, 5-6hrs sleep in a nice hotel bed, and then one short flight home any less safe?
With that being said, they can sometimes be a good deal and the people calling them unsafe are being dramatic. They aren't any worse than a 30hr layover circadian flip. Also if an 11hr long international flight is legal and safe with a crappy 3hr nap in a delta one seat or bunk, how is an 11hr (usually less) long duty period with one short flight to an over night, 5-6hrs sleep in a nice hotel bed, and then one short flight home any less safe?
07-31-2019, 03:20 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MadDog gear slinger
Posts: 568
Originally Posted by m3113n1a1
....... 5-6hrs sleep in a nice hotel bed, and then one short flight home any less safe?
07-31-2019, 03:51 PM
#30
Roll’n Thunder
Joined APC: Oct 2009
Position: Pilot
Posts: 3,555
Originally Posted by Flying Monkey
That’s only if it’s actually scheduled with that much time on the ground and IF you’re on time. You’re on continuous duty so if you’re late you don’t get that time. It could end up being a turn with min time on the ground.
