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Old 09-27-2019 | 11:25 AM
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An investor call was conducted this morning to discuss LATAM JV. Highlights:

We receive the first 2 A350s at the end of 2020. No further timeline for the remaining 12 except sometime between 2021-2025. Ed made comments that suggested our current 15 firm was too small of a fleet. Sounds like we are still open in our search for WB renewal, to both Boeing/Airbus.

We will use debt for nearly all of the 1.9b purchase. On-top of that, 350m to ease LATAMs transition will be spread out over years.

Our current flying ratio between US-LATAM is 30%/70%. Will be interesting addition/ complication to our scope negotiations. Mentioned several times that the JV will help grow Aeromexico.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
https://ir.delta.com/events-and-pres...l/default.aspx



An investor call was conducted this morning to discuss LATAM JV. Highlights:



We receive the first 2 A350s at the end of 2020. No further timeline for the remaining 12 except sometime between 2021-2025. Ed made comments that suggested our current 15 firm was too small of a fleet. Sounds like we are still open in our search for WB renewal, to both Boeing/Airbus.



We will use debt for nearly all of the 1.9b purchase. On-top of that, 350m to ease LATAMs transition will be spread out over years.



Our current flying ratio between US-LATAM is 30%/70%. Will be interesting addition/ complication to our scope negotiations. Mentioned several times that the JV will help grow Aeromexico.
Impressive research. Well done. Thanks for sharing

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Old 09-27-2019 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by BigHitterLlama
Thanks for the correction. So change all my questions about -1000 to -900ULR...
The -900ULR only gains the "ULR" designation when the fwd cargo bin has been deactivated and when you significantly reduce seating capacity. Singapore's ULR has 161 seats versus our 306 seats which is how they do SIN-EWR. Overall, our B777-200LRs are way more capable.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
The -900ULR only gains the "ULR" designation when the fwd cargo bin has been deactivated and when you significantly reduce seating capacity. Singapore's ULR has 161 seats versus our 306 seats which is how they do SIN-EWR. Overall, our B777-200LRs are way more capable.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 01:06 PM
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777LR fuel quantity: 47,890 gallons
A350 fuel quantity: 37,170 gallons

which equals a lot more range for the 777LR
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Old 09-27-2019 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
777LR fuel quantity: 47,890 gallons
A350 fuel quantity: 37,170 gallons

which equals a lot more range for the 777LR
according to wikipedia the ULR has a 44,000 gal fuel capacity. airbus press release matches this #
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Old 09-27-2019 | 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
777LR fuel quantity: 47,890 gallons
A350 fuel quantity: 37,170 gallons

which equals a lot more range for the 777LR
The LR really is a pretty unique bird and the addition of Mumbai flying has made it even more indispensable. I know they tried to put the A350 on Sydney but ended up not doing it. Like others have said, our ERs could easily be replaced by A350s but that would leave a fleet of only 10 aircraft. Has Delta ever had an orphan fleet that small?
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Old 09-27-2019 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DELTAFO
777LR fuel quantity: 47,890 gallons
A350 fuel quantity: 37,170 gallons

which equals a lot more range for the 777LR
Don't fly either, so I can verify, but guys on the other forum quoted the following mid flight fuel burns numbers.

777 = 8,000 pph
350 = 6,000-6,500 pph
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Old 09-27-2019 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 20Fathoms
The LR really is a pretty unique bird and the addition of Mumbai flying has made it even more indispensable. I know they tried to put the A350 on Sydney but ended up not doing it. Like others have said, our ERs could easily be replaced by A350s but that would leave a fleet of only 10 aircraft. Has Delta ever had an orphan fleet that small?
I think the general rumor is that the LRs might be replaced by 787s.
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Old 09-27-2019 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg
Don't fly either, so I can verify, but guys on the other forum quoted the following mid flight fuel burns numbers.

777 = 8,000 pph
350 = 6,000-6,500 pph
If that is per side, it seems reasonable.
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