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Scoop 10-23-2019 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by fishforfun (Post 2911387)
Were there 500-1000 retiring every year then?

No not that many. That is why I think training can be a restraint, just at a much higher number than 1000/year

Scoop

fishforfun 10-23-2019 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2911403)
No not that many. That is why I think training can be a restraint, just at a much higher number than 1000/year

Scoop

That is for sure the limitation. I do think an economic slowdown will bail out the company eventually.

PilotJ3 10-23-2019 03:44 PM

We could negotiate using the F period for NH in exchange for NH hotels in training and 1 yr seat lock.

Recurrent training F period still optional.

That way we can train more NHs, give them hotel.

Buck Rogers 10-23-2019 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 2911377)
We hired 1000/year pre-merger in the late 90s. While training constraints will kick in at a certain point we can definitely ramp up much more.

Scoop

Agreed....

If I remember correctly, in 1989 to 1992ish, Delta hired 100/month for almost 3 years.......all with 1 1/2 sim buildings .......prolly 14-16 sims

Comparably speaking ......How many sim buildings we got now? How many sims? Do people think there aren't enough qualified candidates?

TED74 10-23-2019 04:20 PM

Call me crazy, but I'd like DALPA to focus their negotiating efforts on whatever the surveys told them were our collective priorities... nothing more and nothing less.

Abouttime2fish 10-23-2019 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2911440)
Call me crazy, but I'd like DALPA to focus their negotiating efforts on whatever the surveys told them were our collective priorities... nothing more and nothing less.

Not that we will ever know what that was, not even after the fact.

gzsg 10-23-2019 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2911440)
Call me crazy, but I'd like DALPA to focus their negotiating efforts on whatever the surveys told them were our collective priorities... nothing more and nothing less.

That is exactly what they are doing. And I agree 100%.

Scoop 10-23-2019 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2911440)
Call me crazy, but I'd like DALPA to focus their negotiating efforts on whatever the surveys told them were our collective priorities... nothing more and nothing less.

That there is crazy talk.🤪
But I like it.

Scoop

cni187 10-24-2019 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by TED74 (Post 2911440)
Call me crazy, but I'd like DALPA to focus their negotiating efforts on whatever the surveys told them were our collective priorities... nothing more and nothing less.

You believe that the surveys convey what the pilot group as a whole believes? Surveys are written to be skewed. The MEC is negotiating for what it wants.

RonRicco 10-25-2019 12:55 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2912192)
You believe that the surveys convey what the pilot group as a whole believes? Surveys are written to be skewed. The MEC is negotiating for what it wants.

There is certainly some truth to that. Polling can be one of the purest and most accurate forms of determining pilot wishes and priorities as you don’t have the self selection bias that goes with a survey, especially one that has less than 50% participation.

Based on the questions they asked me the last time I was called (over a year ago) they were definitely answer shopping. There is a segment of the MEC that will not believe the response if you ask the question “what is your top priority” if it doesn’t match what they hear from the squeaky wheels that call them, or SM, or what they themselves want. So, they go and push to have the questions changed that hopefully gets them to the answer they want.


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