Coronavirus and SARS
 

For those of you who were around in 2003, how did SARS affect the operation?

International traffic dropped quite a bit. Quite frankly, the company had been bleeding money since 9/11 and it was hard at times to tell where the losses were coming from.

Pacific yields dropped like a stone.

We have given away all our Pacific flying, so it shouldn't impact us at all. :D

2019-nCoV


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This has the potential to hurt UAL a lot. They have, as everyone is quick to point out, a lot of expensive WBs flying (already) low margin Pacific routes, and this isn’t going to help their case.

sounds like a good time to nonrev, then!

didn't Northwest downgraded most of the beyond Tokyo routes from 744 to 757 because the loads were so bad?

I don’t recall actually redeployment of aircraft for SARS, but an advantage existed in the Pacific, in that NW had an A 320 operation in NRT since the 2nd runway opened (slightly post-9/11). The rationale was to hold the super-valuable “B Runway” slots, which were issued on a use it or lose it basis, with an aircraft more suited to post-9/11 traffic. I recall taxiing next to 34R in a 320 with 150-ish folks on board while seeing UAL 777s with few heads in the windows using the same runway for the purpose of slot maintenance. I remember 320 routes to TPE, KHH, BUS and ICN. There were probably other cities that I cannot think of. Memory is a bit fuzzy but I would say we actually upgauged a bit by the time SARS came around. The 757 replaced the 320 in Asia, opening more routes. The 320 could not make GUM or SPN due lack of ETOPs (and was not practical for other routes such as BKK and SGN). Also, many of our feeds from the Mainland and Hawaii to Asia were DC-10s as opposed to 747-200/400s.
So bottom-line, post 9/11 capacity adjustments probably served NW well through SARSs.

I see United has suspended flights to China, citing "lack of demand".

"Other" airlines are offering free masks upon request and an assurance that planes are, like, totally swabbed downed with a virus killing antiseptic before every flight. I must assume that means every inch of every armrest, every seat belt, every tray table, and every lav with strength 100% alcohol.

Yes?

1) Alcohol doesn't kill 2019-nCoV.
2) From DeltaNet: "Delta sources its own high-grade disinfectant, which is rated to combat many communicable diseases."
2a) "combat" = fuzzy legal term that doesn't really mean anything
2b) "many communicable diseases" = but not necessarily the one you are worried about

I see articles about alcohol based hand sanitizer and the fact that it evaporates quickly so it may not be effective. I could not find anything about alcohol not actually killing it if it comes in contact?

I saw that and almost choked. YGBSM. How stupid do they think we are?

I read it somewhere that only bleach and hydrogen peroxide are effective.

I mix mine with tonic and a lime. Takes the edge off.