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Spilled drink causes A350 engine shutdown
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“This is why we can’t have nice things”
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That wouldn’t happen to a Douglas product. Probably because Douglas couldn’t figure out how to keep liquids on the outside of the jet.
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Pilots will no longer be allowed to drink in the cockpit. And so we're fair, flight attendants also will be prohibited from hydrating whenever engines are running.
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*cough* tray table *cough*
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https://youtu.be/ibfQX11aPmg
Airbus doesn't like it when you make a mess. |
Considering that
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It seems like dumb luck that it only affected one engine. Both engine controls in the same panel, right? It would follow that it could have happened to both at the same time. Yikes!
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Not a place to be talking about this. Plus you guys don’t have the full factual story.
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Originally Posted by deltabound
(Post 2968661)
Considering that
If you passed a drink over the center console and spilled it, that was a fireable offense at my old ACMI. |
Originally Posted by Tailhookah
(Post 2968903)
Not a place to be talking about this. Plus you guys don’t have the full factual story.
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2968917)
How about don’t pass drinks over the center console. Not that difficult to have drinks passed to the left of the CA and right of the FO.
If you passed a drink over the center console and spilled it, that was a fireable offense at my old ACMI. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2968917)
How about don’t pass drinks over the center console. Not that difficult to have drinks passed to the left of the CA and right of the FO.
If you passed a drink over the center console and spilled it, that was a fireable offense at my old ACMI. |
Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2968917)
How about don’t pass drinks over the center console. Not that difficult to have drinks passed to the left of the CA and right of the FO.
If you passed a drink over the center console and spilled it, that was a fireable offense at my old ACMI. I flew another plane that had this sort of issue in the past. It was well known, and it kept happening anyway (cockpit was a bit cramped). |
Fate is the Hunter!
ps Every airplane I have flown has this problem. |
Originally Posted by graybeard
(Post 2969054)
Every airplane I have flown has this problem.
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
(Post 2968949)
Like I said. Not how it went down. Not even close. Just zip it.
I'm very interested in any weakness, vulnerability, or situation that could lead to a system failure. |
Originally Posted by Tailhookah
(Post 2968949)
Like I said. Not how it went down. Not even close. Just zip it.
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Simple... Co. issued "Sippy Cups." Your choice of logos, Hello Kitty or Strawberry Shortcake. G.I. Joe optional.
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Good reminder from The late Michael Crichton on the “Gell-Mann Effect”, and why to be highly skeptical of all reporting:
“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton (1942-2008) |
Originally Posted by deltabound
(Post 2969377)
Good reminder from The late Michael Crichton on the “Gell-Mann Effect”, and why to be highly skeptical of all reporting:
“Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has absolutely no understanding of either the facts or the issues. Often, the article is so wrong it actually presents the story backward—reversing cause and effect. I call these the “wet streets cause rain” stories. Paper’s full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story, and then turn the page to national or international affairs, and read as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine than the baloney you just read. You turn the page, and forget what you know.” – Michael Crichton (1942-2008) |
Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2969385)
So - the engine shut down and then the pilots spilled their drinks? Got it.
You’re a pilot. You know a great deal about aviation. When you read a story about aviation, do you find yourself thinking “Boy, that’s some fine, insightful reporting?” Or do you mostly find yourself thinking “Wow, there are so many inaccuracies in that report that it was borderline criminal malfeasance?” I find the second posit is far more common. That’s all. I’ve no idea what happened on that 350, but I took the bait and commented on it. In hindsight, there were most likely extenuating circumstances that add nuance that we will either never know, or will come out a year from now in a training aid. |
Originally Posted by ERflyer
(Post 2969385)
So - the engine shut down and then the pilots spilled their drinks? Got it.
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Originally Posted by RAH RAH REE
(Post 2969524)
Maybe it shut down and they were drinking Brawndo and they thought "Brawndo has what engines crave"
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My new capital venture... console condoms...
I just kept asking myself how do the french do it? |
Originally Posted by deltabound
(Post 2969487)
Hm. Perhaps I wasn’t clear.
You’re a pilot. You know a great deal about aviation. When you read a story about aviation, do you find yourself thinking “Boy, that’s some fine, insightful reporting?” Or do you mostly find yourself thinking “Wow, there are so many inaccuracies in that report that it was borderline criminal malfeasance?” I find the second posit is far more common. That’s all. I’ve no idea what happened on that 350, but I took the bait and commented on it. In hindsight, there were most likely extenuating circumstances that add nuance that we will either never know, or will come out a year from now in a training aid. On the serious side, we know articles are inaccurate all the time. That said, something not good happened - as they do from time to time. |
Yeah, I heard there is more to the story.
Apparently, an Eskimo rights activist breaks into the cockpit with a gun. She says something derogatory about Seward’s Folly when the pilots notice the gun is just a water pistol at which time they proceed to mock and laugh at her for it. She’s like “You think that’s funny, you interloping dogs? Watch this: Squirt, squirt. Right into the crack of the engine 2 master switch which immediately flames out the right. The Captain (becoming less amused) sees her aiming for the number 1 switch and instinctively leans over the pedestal and takes the second blast to the side of the head while the FO is able to subdue the perp and secure the squirt gun. Unfortunately, the gun had been filled with airplane water and the Captain has been quarantined until it can be determined he was not infected with anything from the attack squirt. On a positive note, the FO greased the landing in Fairbanks and apparently has a date set up with the activist after her release. In his words, “She’s off the Crazy / Hot Matrix charts!” Goes to show you. Never believe the first reports. |
Originally Posted by casual observer
(Post 2969572)
Yeah, I heard there is more to the story.
Apparently, an Eskimo rights activist breaks into the cockpit with a gun. She says something derogatory about Seward’s Folly when the pilots notice the gun is just a water pistol at which time they proceed to mock and laugh at her for it. She’s like “You think that’s funny, you interloping dogs? Watch this: Squirt, squirt. Right into the crack of the engine 2 master switch which immediately flames out the right. The Captain (becoming less amused) sees her aiming for the number 1 switch and instinctively leans over the pedestal and takes the second blast to the side of the head while the FO is able to subdue the perp and secure the squirt gun. Unfortunately, the gun had been filled with airplane water and the Captain has been quarantined until it can be determined he was not infected with anything from the attack squirt. On a positive note, the FO greased the landing in Fairbanks and apparently has a date set up with the activist after her release. In his words, “She’s off the Crazy / Hot Matrix charts!” Goes to show you. Never believe the first reports. |
Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 2969556)
My new capital venture... console condoms...
I just kept asking myself how do the french do it? |
Originally Posted by Cicada
(Post 2969627)
The French? They roll that baby inverted and wait till the last drops fall.
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Originally Posted by Tailhookah
(Post 2968949)
Like I said. Not how it went down. Not even close. Just zip it.
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
(Post 2969700)
You sound like a lot of fun at parties.
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2968972)
Obviously a necessary precaution in light of things. But how freakin hard is to make center panels waterproof? .
My cheapish smart phone can survive 30 min in the pool. The technology is available. |
Originally Posted by SideSticker
(Post 2969814)
This.
My cheapish smart phone can survive 30 min in the pool. The technology is available. |
Back in the day when we crossed a rain shower on the DC3, after we were.in the clear then it started raining inside!
Now get off my lawn! |
Originally Posted by Tailhookah
(Post 2968903)
Not a place to be talking about this. Plus you guys don’t have the full factual story.
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Easy fix to this is to pass the drink over the outboard shoulder... Policy in place for years at many other airlines.
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Ever spill a drink in the center console of a Miata? Same effect.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 2969929)
If you ever get a chance when they pull a panel during maintenance on the airbus take a look inside the console. Most home builds have a better standard of wiring.
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Originally Posted by FMGEC
(Post 2970073)
Ever spill a drink in the center console of a Miata? Same effect.
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