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03-25-2020, 04:49 AM

#51

ERflyer

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Another thing that has me not happy is that I bid based on the fact that there would be SILs for May. So I avoided some choice transition trips. Now there will not be SILs. I know it is a relatively minor problem but I don’t like being lied to. Just tell me what the rules are and I will follow them. When you lie to me I do crazy things like completely support a MEC I previously didn’t care for. Now I support them 100%.

Morning rant over. I need some damn coffee.

03-25-2020, 04:50 AM

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Rooster435

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After first PCS run basically the entire month went from blue to black for reserve coverage in my category. Looks like most line holders are dropping trips instead of picking up and hoping for 23k.

03-25-2020, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ERflyer

The company at least should have offered SILs for May. That would have shown them to be the adults in the room that they claim to be, hey they are using a tool that ALPA just agreed to give them, etc. Beyond that they would have real numbers and real metrics. If they then used those numbers to conclude that going forward SILs just aren't that helpful, then I think many of us would concede that they can draw the conclusions they like. But the way this went down is rotten. Makes us wonder if it was all theater.

03-25-2020, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Rooster435

After first PCS run basically the entire month went from blue to black for reserve coverage in my category. Looks like most line holders are dropping trips instead of picking up and hoping for 23k.

From the looks of NYC717, they're not dropping the trips, new trips are being created and dumped into open time. The company's going to do this, then NOOP the trip on line holders' lines, then force them into 23K recovery. For those in NYC717, be careful, most of the trips are now going to originate out of EWR, so if you purposely bid to have everything start in JFK, you're going to be screwed. It would be nice if 23K had to originate at the co-terminal the dropped trip originated from. Imagine guys in LA, plan to start in LAX but end up in SNA.

03-25-2020, 05:23 AM

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sailingfun

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Originally Posted by queuetip

Thats some deep black helicopter stuff right there!

03-25-2020, 05:29 AM

#56

queuetip

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

Thats some deep black helicopter stuff right there!

You're not wrong, but you can't drop a trip without blue reserve coverage and NYC717 is now required reserves in the 20s with single digits available. Most legs on awarded rotations have been cancelled (in iCrew, not MiCrew), and now with 23K on a 12 hour leash, everyone's just on long call. So if I were a scheduler, I'd count on being able to run my schedule with my 23K recovery obligations, and then cover the gaps by putting EVERYONE who's scheduled for reserve on short call. There'll still be a surplus of pilots.

03-25-2020, 05:35 AM

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Well there are trips in open that is for another category. DTW320 rotation has two operating legs of 757, a DH leg on a 321 and an operating leg on a 739. Love that they just dropped a bunch of fodder into open time late the night prior to the first PCS and drove all days black wrt coverage.

03-25-2020, 05:43 AM

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

Love that they just dropped a bunch of fodder into open time late the night prior to the first PCS and drove all days black wrt coverage.

Yea, that's the other thing, there're NY trips that begin in DTW with no deadhead and end in ATL, wrong airframes, etc. It's hard to say that this wasn't intentional on some level.