SILs?
 

The LOA 2 timetable says SILs have to be posted to DBMS 40 days before the start of an SIL bid period...which is tomorrow. So, who's placing bets on how many from what categories?

I'd say a large, large percentage of WB fleets get offers (60-70%). Almost the entirety of M88. Probably a good chunk from the 220 and 7ER fleets, particularly the B sides (30%). A 10-20% smattering in other fleets.

Sounds about right. I am not sure many WB’s would take it if 80% of their fleet is parked.

Many of us would gladly give up 17 hours of pay (72 reserve guarantee - 55 SIL) in exchange for no obligation.

Not if your entire fleet is parked.

There will still be charters like the DUB-ATL route recently announced, or substitutions. Never underestimate the power of network.

I've alreary thrown my hat in the ring for one, I just hope I'm senior enough to get one. 55 hours and I can do whatever I want is much better than 72 hours and still be on the hook, no matter how small the likelihood. A lot of us mil guys might even have the option to hop on a month of orders. If guys have that option, I'd expect to see many of them jump on SILs. Other guys may just be happy to actually get a summer vacation for once.

Have the eligible categories been announced yet? I haven’t seen anything on Deltanet.

Unfortunately, in the absence of posted SILs today and the purported meeting between ALPA and the company, it’s possible management is coming back to the well and requesting less favorable terms for SILs.

Hang on to your (Delta uniform required) hats, everyone. I’m getting more worried about the way the wind is blowing on this...

Do you have anything to back this up?

What are they willing to give up for that?

Ever since they announced the SIL LOA I've been wondering how effective that would be. 55 hours is great when ALV's are 65 and higher, but if we agree to lower ALV's to, say 45 or 50, then the 55 hour SILs become basically worthless to the company. To me it only makes sense to offer SILs if they are at least 10 hours lower than ALV's.

Methinks the company reneges. Remember everyone: Keep your Deals.

ok more than one person is saying that but based on what?

Probably based on the company requesting a meeting today to discuss the status based on COVID. If the company is requesting a meeting with the MEC, it’s not to share good news; they’re probably coming to the MEC with hat in hand

70% capacity cut and parking 600 planes. It’s inevitable.

probably best to wait and see if the stimulus bill goes through before the union agrees to any reductions. Hopefully Congress will figure it out in a day or so.

deleted until we know more

Can we just wait until the SILs come out? Geez.

I agree with that, but I haven’t seen any numbers to understand what we may or may not be getting and how long that will keep us afloat. I guess I don’t see how we don’t have significantly reduced ALVs coming very soon.

Hey, Fat! You may be able to, but "c'mon, man!" this is APC.

But where did you get that the company requested a meeting?

NYC MEC email earlier today:“March 23, 2020

Dear New York pilots:

This afternoon a subgroup from within the MEC is meeting with Delta management to discuss the current COVID-19 situation. This meeting occurs at the request of the company. In this meeting, a small delegation from the MEC and our subject-matter experts will work to better understand the economic situation of our company and the course management envisions going forward...”

Anyone hear any rumblings yet?

This lack of info is deafening. My desire to help out is waning.

I think they’re working on an early retirement plan.

Is this a WAG or have you heard something?

Lol, yeah, for the execs!

I’m getting fed up with this lack of communication that only allows rumors and wild speculation to run rampant. How hard is a sky hub post saying sils are delayed for some meetings with the MEC?

that’s my guess as well, probably why the SIL list hasn’t come out yet

Sign me up mother****ers

American just had 563 pilots accept early retirement.

Smart boys

50 hours a month and benefits until 65.

Being a slight pessimist right now..........What happens if AA declares BK in November...........?

Denny

WSJ reporting that US airlines may shut down, either voluntarily or by government order.

Title says it all.

Company might want to give the union a heads up. Beats me. Really depressing to read the whole “exclusive “.

Click at your own risk.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-dom...er-11585013673

11:41, so there’s still 19 minutes to go...
I’m going to guess that at least 1 person both in Delta management and DALPA management knows why the SIL numbers weren’t published. I’m also going to go out on a limb and say they had a pretty good idea before now that they might end up here. Why in the world can’t someone have the common courteously to tell us why?

So much for that.

2 rumors, so take it for what it's worth:

SILs will make the other employee groups jelly.

Early retirement in the works a la AA.

Too dire of a situation for feelings, plus it’s already been agreed on in the LOA. I’m guessing early retirements.