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Originally Posted by torbai
(Post 3029089)
Actually, it’ immoral, highly destructive, and quintessentially capitalist. It’s emblematic of our out-of-control capitalism. Needs to be fixed.
The proper method for returning capital to the owners is via dividends. IF a company repurchases shares, any equity/earnings based compensation should require a per share adjustment that reflects the reduced number of shares. A buyback must be accounted for in the same way a reverse split is treated by Wall Street. |
Originally Posted by Viking busdvr
(Post 3029105)
So change the law... Quit dumping it in the lap of “that darn capitalism!”
If you’ve got a better system than capitalism let’s hear it! And provide concrete examples of where it’s worked..... |
Originally Posted by torbai
(Post 3029192)
Properly regulated capitalism is the best system there is. Bar none. But what we have no is out of control capitalism. Stock buybacks used to be illegal, one day, they are not. There are many other issues where we’ve done away with regulations, always to the benefit of the .001%
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3029204)
Reagan and the post-Reagan republican corporatists have destroyed what was once good about capitalism.
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Q1 earnings next week for many companies. I hope Bernie's one Netflix account for all senior citizens becomes a reality.
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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3029204)
Reagan and the post-Reagan republican corporatists have destroyed what was once good about capitalism.
I don’t disagree regarding the moral hazard of executive compensation and stock buybacks, but retreating to your priors (ie your ideological bent) to blame someone you don’t like is at best lazy and at worst intellectually dishonest. I would be much more interested in hearing ideas on how to entice executive talent without creating moral hazard for them to harm their own companies in order to line their own pockets. |
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
(Post 3029113)
Just to provide balance, another opinion,
https://www.aier.org/article/in-defe...hare-buybacks/ Companies that buy back their own stock don’t see better investment opportunities inside the company or industry. Holding lots of excess cash is an invitation for raider mischief. Taibbi mentions debt trades for stock. Well, the problem isn’t stock buybacks, it’s our stupid tax code taxing income wherever it is earned forcing companies to hold cash overseas rather than repatriate it. Ask any American expat how nasty the US code. Good article, and I appreciate you posting it. I'm not an economist: but it stands to reason that there has to be a way to avoid raider mischief: Apple has an unreal amount of cash, but you don't see huge banks buying it out to raid their cash reserves. Which, since legal, would be a totally "capitalist" thing to do. At least for the purchaser...not so much for a hollowed out Apple. Plenty of regulatory changes that need to happen; now seems like an extraordinarily good time to do it. But at the very least, I'd rather see "excess" profits returned to shareholders via dividends. |
Originally Posted by deltabound
(Post 3029827)
Good article, and I appreciate you posting it.
I'm not an economist: but it stands to reason that there has to be a way to avoid raider mischief: Apple has an unreal amount of cash, but you don't see huge banks buying it out to raid their cash reserves. Which, since legal, would be a totally "capitalist" thing to do. At least for the purchaser...not so much for a hollowed out Apple. Plenty of regulatory changes that need to happen; now seems like an extraordinarily good time to do it. But at the very least, I'd rather see "excess" profits returned to shareholders via dividends. /sarc |
Originally Posted by Gspeed
(Post 3029854)
i thought regulations were holding ‘Murica back?
Housing is a "human right" though, so once its free it won't cost a thing. |
Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 3029874)
Maybe we need more "community reinvestment acts" that mandate relaxed lending and trillions in pumped up air to inflate, bust and reinflate real estate bubbles, for social justice and great success!
Housing is a "human right" though, so once its free it won't cost a thing. |
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